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Offline egoopus

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How should i continue my music education.
on: April 22, 2013, 04:05:11 AM
Hi i have been teaching myself the piano for 6 months now my ultimate goal is to compose good music and be able to improvise.I play new age and popular music.I have a pretty good knowledge of chords i have the circle of fifths memorized.But i'm lost on what i should do next to improve.I'm thinking i should expand my horizons and start playing some classical music even though i don't like it very much but besides that i'm lost. Also im trying to learn to play by ear but im hopeless in that effort.

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Re: How should i continue my music education.
Reply #1 on: April 22, 2013, 09:16:48 AM
I play a lot of New Age or New Age-esque with Gospel theme, as well as original New Age ( meaning original writings) and some popular arrangement pieces, as well as movie and stage show theme song arrangements. All of that I have taken on myself, I've had no teacher for that. However, I have ten years of classical training by a competent teacher long ago now, you would be surprised how much classical relates to other kinds of music. If you really want to learn classical you should have a teacher. If you can stand a couple of years worth of classical training you might find you like it and continue but if not it certainly will not have hurt you. That's the first order of business you need to pursue if to go down the classical road, IMO.

Depressing the pedal on an out of tune acoustic piano and playing does not result in tonal color control or add interest, it's called obnoxious.

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Re: How should i continue my music education.
Reply #2 on: April 22, 2013, 10:57:50 AM
I agree. Find a good teacher, preferably one who does the lot - classical, jazz, improvisation, composition. They are rare but they do exist. A good teacher, an experienced musician, will save you an awful lot of hard work by spotting strong and weak points you won't at present be aware of.
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Re: How should i continue my music education.
Reply #3 on: April 22, 2013, 11:04:31 AM
I agree. Find a good teacher, preferably one who does the lot - classical, jazz, improvisation, composition. They are rare but they do exist. A good teacher, an experienced musician, will save you an awful lot of hard work by spotting strong and weak points you won't at present be aware of.



I play a lot of New Age or New Age-esque with Gospel theme, as well as original New Age ( meaning original writings) and some popular arrangement pieces, as well as movie and stage show theme song arrangements. All of that I have taken on myself, I've had no teacher for that. However, I have ten years of classical training by a competent teacher long ago now, you would be surprised how much classical relates to other kinds of music. If you really want to learn classical you should have a teacher. If you can stand a couple of years worth of classical training you might find you like it and continue but if not it certainly will not have hurt you. That's the first order of business you need to pursue if to go down the classical road, IMO.



I know that having a teacher is essential in music education but unfortunately getting a teacher is not an option for me right now.

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Re: How should i continue my music education.
Reply #4 on: April 22, 2013, 11:51:42 AM
There is a lot of self-studying material to find. You should also listen A LOT to classical music, as you will learn so much from it. There is so much material, I cannot imagine that you cannot find anything you like! And classical music is the foundation for everything.

I don't like playing so called popular music as the piano arrangements often are very dull, especially for the left hand. Compare this with Beethoven and Chopin, who wrote music suited for the PIANO. You will be delighted by what they offer, when you start investigating their works.

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Reply #5 on: April 22, 2013, 06:35:30 PM
There is a lot of self-studying material to find. You should also listen A LOT to classical music, as you will learn so much from it. There is so much material, I cannot imagine that you cannot find anything you like! And classical music is the foundation for everything.

I don't like playing so called popular music as the piano arrangements often are very dull, especially for the left hand. Compare this with Beethoven and Chopin, who wrote music suited for the PIANO. You will be delighted by what they offer, when you start investigating their works.



do you have any recommendations for classical pieces i am at the intermediate level and i want a piece that would challenge me a little bit technically.

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Re: How should i continue my music education.
Reply #6 on: April 23, 2013, 12:16:52 AM
also are there any good book suggestions.

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Re: How should i continue my music education.
Reply #7 on: April 23, 2013, 05:14:42 PM
im trying to learn to play by ear

The recorder is healthy way for anyone who is ear training

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Re: How should i continue my music education.
Reply #8 on: April 23, 2013, 11:08:21 PM
do you have any recommendations for classical pieces i am at the intermediate level and i want a piece that would challenge me a little bit technically.
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look at the Bach 2 part inventions. Those are not too hard at can be quite fun. Number 4, 8, 13, 14, and 15 are very nice IMO :)
Debussy Pour le Piano
Chopin Etude 10/5, 10/9
Beethoven Sonata 2/2, 10/3
Bach P&F no. 7 WTC 1
Ligeti Musica Ricercata 10

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Reply #9 on: April 23, 2013, 11:31:55 PM
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look at the Bach 2 part inventions. Those are not too hard at can be quite fun. Number 4, 8, 13, 14, and 15 are very nice IMO :)

I'd suggest to the OP to download one of these that is a grade 5 level vs 6 level and just try it. You are only a piano student of 6 months and we have not heard you play. These pieces are strong on structure and polyphonic. If it turns out to be too much for you, look through more Bach, perhaps Anna Magdalena notebook series. Look for level 3 work at first in that case at any rate.

Robert Schumann's The Wild Horseman comes to mind as well. It's a great snappy little piece with some rhythm and dynamics going on.

Various Preludes from various composers might be of interest.
Depressing the pedal on an out of tune acoustic piano and playing does not result in tonal color control or add interest, it's called obnoxious.
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