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jlh
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The "landmark" piano concertos...
on: April 26, 2013, 07:07:22 PM
I'm wondering what you all might say to the question about which piano concertos from Haydn to the present day are the "landmark" concertos... those concertos which contributed most to the development of the form or introduced something new or different.
I have my own ideas but wanted to see what you guys think and why.
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cameronbiles
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Re: The "landmark" piano concertos...
Reply #1 on: April 28, 2013, 06:38:56 PM
Gershwin's concerto in F is a personal favourite of mine and is something completely different with his jazz harmonies but still in the western classical tradition.
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Re: The "landmark" piano concertos...
Reply #2 on: April 28, 2013, 11:59:57 PM
I think the two most influential concertos I can think of are Beethoven C minor and Schumann A minor (not so much, but still pretty big).
Probably Rach 2 and Tchaikovsky 1 are pretty big as well.
And Liszt!
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thalbergmad
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Re: The "landmark" piano concertos...
Reply #3 on: April 29, 2013, 05:40:33 PM
The Schumann concerto is more of a skidmark than a landmark.
If I had to choose just one, it would be the Henselt F minor. That was a fair bit ahead of its time.
Schumann is rats piss in comparison.
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Re: The "landmark" piano concertos...
Reply #4 on: April 29, 2013, 09:54:11 PM
Brahms' 2nd, the summit of symphonic piano concertos
Bartσk's 1st for establishing a percussive style as an alternative to Romantic indulgence
Ravel's for the LH, for obvious reasons
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Re: The "landmark" piano concertos...
Reply #5 on: April 29, 2013, 10:16:17 PM
I think the Lutoslawsky piano concerto is wonderfull with its contemporary language.
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perfect_pitch
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Re: The "landmark" piano concertos...
Reply #6 on: April 29, 2013, 10:19:46 PM
To me - Brahms 1st piano concerto presents the most cohesively written piece of music for piano and orchestra. Each theme just seems to flawlessly flow into the next section...
As opposed to say Rachmaninoff's 4th piano concerto which to me just sounds a little odd.
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Re: The "landmark" piano concertos...
Reply #7 on: May 01, 2013, 01:16:02 AM
Why start with Haydn? It was, after all, Bach who invented the form.
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