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Offline black_keys

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Scriabin etude op 8 no 12
on: May 06, 2013, 12:59:02 PM
I hope you enjoy it , and any suggestions are welcome

https://soundcloud.com/black-keys-2/scriabin-etude-op-8-no-12

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Re: Scriabin etude op 8 no 12
Reply #1 on: May 10, 2013, 12:53:36 AM
This Étude is insane, how wide is your hand? 11th? I can't imagine how Scriabin hands were :P

Well, I think that in some parts it could be more passionate and crazy and there could exist a major difference of dynamics. I mean, the piece is in a continuos crescendo (f -> ff -> fff) and If I were you I would try to stand this out a little bit more.

Anyway your work with this beast has been great!! Congratulations!!  :)

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Re: Scriabin etude op 8 no 12
Reply #2 on: May 10, 2013, 09:41:10 AM
I think in order to give the piece more momentum  you should play the ascending semiquaver notes in the main theme a bit faster, same thing with the semi quavers before the dotted quaver notes. Sometimes you hold back a bit too much with them, same thing with bar 26-29. I hope this helps.

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Re: Scriabin etude op 8 no 12
Reply #3 on: May 20, 2013, 02:31:58 PM
This Étude is insane, how wide is your hand? 11th? I can't imagine how Scriabin hands were :P

Well, I think that in some parts it could be more passionate and crazy and there could exist a major difference of dynamics. I mean, the piece is in a continuos crescendo (f -> ff -> fff) and If I were you I would try to stand this out a little bit more.

Anyway your work with this beast has been great!! Congratulations!!  :)


I can almost reach an 11th , I used the dynamics marked at the ossia , because i was recording on my electric keyboard and I dont have a wide band of dynamics to use (there is a limitation to the piano volume). Btw thanks so much for your comment , i'm glad youliked my performance  :)

 
I think in order to give the piece more momentum  you should play the ascending semiquaver notes in the main theme a bit faster, same thing with the semi quavers before the dotted quaver notes. Sometimes you hold back a bit too much with them, same thing with bar 26-29. I hope this helps.

Thank you for the comment , you are right i have to play these semiquarvers a bit faster , i can fix that when i get more comfortable with the piece.

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Re: Scriabin etude op 8 no 12
Reply #4 on: May 21, 2013, 11:34:51 AM
For the most part, it's very even.

Even at a slow tempo, you can still do a good phrases. I play this myself.

To play it fast at Horowitz tempo, you're on the way. Basically, feel comfortable playing the piece as if the left hand "is not there".

IMO, Horowitz is THE number one interpreter for this Scriabin Etude, so watch him play it and pay attention to his dynamics.
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Re: Scriabin etude op 8 no 12
Reply #5 on: June 03, 2013, 06:55:19 PM
It's a clean performance, which is a good thing.  I think (and I believe someone above also alluded to this) that the main motif of the theme could be played a bit more energetically--which will probably translate into a faster tempo overall.  I played this etude many years ago (it's my favorite Scriabin piece).  Someone suggested to me (I'm paraphrasing) that my performance really needed more Romantic impulsiveness and spontaneity, which I think was good advice.  Don't even think of it as an etude, but as an expression of great passion.
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