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Offline mjames

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Scriabin - Early and Middle period
on: May 20, 2013, 06:31:16 PM
I mean I've always appreciated and liked Scriabin's early works, but once I stumbled upon a few recordings by Samuel Feinberg....

God damn, Scriabin is amazing! The Op. 25 Mazurkas are such a delight...
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What do you think about the early Scriabin? Me? I am falling love.

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Re: Scriabin - Early and Middle period
Reply #1 on: May 21, 2013, 02:58:05 AM
I am not particularly very fond of early Scriabin, because it sounds too much of Chopin with a teaspoon of Russia.

I think his more valuable works, for me, would be his third symphony, Le poeme le extase, Promethee and any of his later works, especially Vers la flamme which i love to play and its sound its amazingly rich with subtle harmonies and progressions.

Samuel Feinberg's recordings are amazing, i love his playing of the fourth sonata.

But my wish to hear Scriabin play a lot of his other works, and in a good acoustical recording, not a piano roll, will most likely not come true.
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Re: Scriabin - Early and Middle period
Reply #2 on: May 21, 2013, 03:06:35 AM
His middle period works are really insightful on how his harmonic development happened, the etude op.43 no.5 is really dark and somewhat dissonant, but the melodies are very tonal indeed.

But there a lot of his works underrated, many from his early period, like his Sonata in f minor op.5
and his Allegro appassionato, that i like very much as well.
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Re: Scriabin - Early and Middle period
Reply #3 on: May 21, 2013, 03:25:21 AM
I am not particularly very fond of early Scriabin, because it sounds too much of Chopin with a teaspoon of Russia.


Funny, I think that's exactly why I do like it :)

But I don't think I have ever heard Scriabin and wondered "what can this be, there's a Chopin piece that I have never heard of  ???". This has happened a couple of times with Balakirev...

But I also like middle-period, late and whatever Scriabin...

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Re: Scriabin - Early and Middle period
Reply #4 on: May 21, 2013, 03:36:35 AM
Funny, I think that's exactly why I do like it :)

But I don't think I have ever heard Scriabin and wondered "what can this be, there's a Chopin piece that I have never heard of  ???". This has happened a couple of times with Balakirev...

But I also like middle-period, late and whatever Scriabin...

Yeah, It's just very similar, but Scriabin has his own...unique tone if you will.

The first time i heard the Etude Op.2 No.1 for the first seconds i was thinking "Hmm... a Chopin I had never heard before" but at the end I concluded that it wasn't Chopin. I think i heard it at a recital of a fellow classmate of mine.
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Re: Scriabin - Early and Middle period
Reply #5 on: May 21, 2013, 04:33:12 AM
For those with a taste for Scriabin, might I also put in a plug for Roy Agnew, an Australian composer from the first half of the twentieth century, sometimes called the Australian Scriabin, who has some similarities and who may also appeal.

Here's an example:

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Re: Scriabin - Early and Middle period
Reply #6 on: May 21, 2013, 04:42:22 AM
Nice. Alexei Stanchinsky(1888-1914) is a very obscure Russian composer who also sounds like early Scri, take a look:



It's his nocturne, very dreamy indeed.
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Re: Scriabin - Early and Middle period
Reply #7 on: May 21, 2013, 04:44:58 AM
Nice. Alexei Stanchinsky(1888-1914) is a very obscure Russian composer who also sounds like early Scri, take a look:



It's his nocturne, very dreamy indeed.

I think Stanchinsky is just as good as Scriabin.

He's freaking good...
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Re: Scriabin - Early and Middle period
Reply #8 on: May 21, 2013, 04:51:29 AM
I think Stanchinsky is just as good as Scriabin.

He's freaking good...

Yet strangely omitted from your signature.  ::)
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Re: Scriabin - Early and Middle period
Reply #9 on: May 21, 2013, 06:28:00 AM
I wasn't aware of this. Scriabin just went up in my estimation.  :)



Written whilst he was a student of Anton Arensky. He was set the task of writing ten of them, but apparently the dog ate the rest.
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Re: Scriabin - Early and Middle period
Reply #10 on: May 21, 2013, 08:10:28 AM
Late Liadov is also similar to Scriabin. His miniatures are so full of color. His early works are awfully chopinesque as well. It's lovely to see how all of these composers start with a common admiration and inspiration, and over time they develop their own unique language.

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