Fur Elise 2nd theme

[ranniks]

So how is it sounding? What should I watch for when practising it?

[danielespinosa]

there are lots of mistakes  you are speeding and slowing  at certain points, you have to keep the same tempo. also you are making staccato at some points that dont have to be there, it should sound smoother.

Practice it slow, in forte, very articulated. When you have very secure withouth any mistakes, play it piano, and more legato. Then it should be ok 

[j_menz]

Slow it down (quite a bit for the moment) and count. 

[ranniks]

there are lots of mistakes  you are speeding and slowing  at certain points, you have to keep the same tempo. also you are making staccato at some points that dont have to be there, it should sound smoother.

Practice it slow, in forte, very articulated. When you have very secure withouth any mistakes, play it piano, and more legato. Then it should be ok 

Alright. To be honest with you I have no idea what you mean with forte and piano, but I assume from previous experience that it is just a playing style like legato.

Thanks for the input, I'll see what I can do!

Slow it down (quite a bit for the moment) and count. 

Will do. I'm not exactly sure how to count this piece though. This is in 3/8 time I believe. How do you even count that? I was taught by an online video that 4/4 meant 4 beats in a period of 4, so doesn't 3/8 mean half/quarters beats in an 8 time? Or is it just 3 beats in a period of 8?

Hmm, needs a lot of work!

[hfmadopter]

Hmm, needs a lot of work!

Yes.

 Where is your teacher at these days ? He shouldn't be letting any of this pass by.

[ranniks]

Yes.

 Where is your teacher at these days ? He shouldn't be letting any of this pass by.

We're not practising this piece to be honest. We're going over a blues piece and the easy version of the moonlight sonata. And of course chords chords chords and more chords, hehe. But they do help though!

I'll see it through with my teacher tomorrow and hopefully I can get this piece nice and steady.

The third theme on the other hand is just long memorisation *gah*.

[j_menz]

This is in 3/8 time I believe. How do you even count that? I was taught by an online video that 4/4 meant 4 beats in a period of 4, so doesn't 3/8 mean half/quarters beats in an 8 time? Or is it just 3 beats in a period of 8?

3/8 is simple triple metre, so it's "One and Two and Three and" for the six semiquavers in a bar.

Most x/8 are compound metre (counted in groups of three per beat), but this one isn't - it's in groups of two.

[tdawe]

Alright. To be honest with you I have no idea what you mean with forte and piano, but I assume from previous experience that it is just a playing style like legato.

Thanks for the input, I'll see what I can do!

Will do. I'm not exactly sure how to count this piece though. This is in 3/8 time I believe. How do you even count that? I was taught by an online video that 4/4 meant 4 beats in a period of 4, so doesn't 3/8 mean half/quarters beats in an 8 time? Or is it just 3 beats in a period of 8?

Hmm, needs a lot of work!

Forte and piano are dynamic markings. Forte is italian for loud and piano is italian for quiet. Hence the full name of the instrument, pianoforte, emphasizing the range of dynamics it can produce. They will be symbolized on the page as a stylized "f" or "p". Other common dynamic markings you may encounter are pianissimo (the most quiet, pp), fortissimo (the loudest, ff) and sforzando (sf, suddenly loud), mezzo forte/piano (moderately loud/quiet, mf/mp). Many composers will use extra letters for emphasis, triple p or triple f is not uncommon.

[ranniks]

Today I made a new recording with your suggestions (still havn't gone through with it with me teacher, although, he said it was decent a few months back when I had practised it somewhat longer than usual). I havn't applied the piano/forte/legato etc because I'm not exactly sure how to.

Is it better than the previous recording?

[magic_sonata]

First off, you need to know what the terms mean. Then, you can apply them.

Piano, (written as a 'p') is a dynamic marking indicating for you to play quietly.

Forte, (written as an 'f') is a dynamic marking indicating for you to play loudly.

Legato is a musical style, telling you NOT to separate notes but play them smoothly, or in other words, together.

When there is an 'm' in front of any dynamic marking, it means 'mezzo'. For example, 'mezzo piano' would be to play sort of soft, but almost loud.

[hfmadopter]

Today I made a new recording with your suggestions (still havn't gone through with it with me teacher, although, he said it was decent a few months back when I had practised it somewhat longer than usual). I havn't applied the piano/forte/legato etc because I'm not exactly sure how to.

Is it better than the previous recording?

Listen, we said slow it down and get it even. Sometimes folks here have asked how slow should one go to get something into their hands. I have replied as slow as it takes to do it correctly, my teacher sometime made that excruciatingly slow. Here is an example of what I mean by that, again if need be sometimes ( not me playing incidentally) :

what you have done is somewhat better but not good enough. The accents are totally off for one thing. But don't let that discourage you, I don't mean it to be harsh but to keep working at it.

Slow but recognizable :

[ranniks]

First off, you need to know what the terms mean. Then, you can apply them.

Piano, (written as a 'p') is a dynamic marking indicating for you to play quietly.

Forte, (written as an 'f') is a dynamic marking indicating for you to play loudly.

Legato is a musical style, telling you NOT to separate notes but play them smoothly, or in other words, together.

When there is an 'm' in front of any dynamic marking, it means 'mezzo'. For example, 'mezzo piano' would be to play sort of soft, but almost loud.

Ahhh. Hmmmm. I'll go back to the drawing board with this.

Listen, we said slow it down and get it even. Sometimes folks here have asked how slow should one go to get something into their hands. I have replied as slow as it takes to do it correctly, my teacher sometime made that excruciatingly slow. Here is an example of what I mean by that, again if need be sometimes ( not me playing incidentally) :

what you have done is somewhat better but not good enough. The accents are totally off for one thing. But don't let that discourage you, I don't mean it to be harsh but to keep working at it.

Slow but recognizable :

I'll try David. And those are really slow 0.0. But I'll try a few times on that tempo, thanks!

[hfmadopter]

I'll try David. And those are really slow 0.0. But I'll try a few times on that tempo, thanks!

Yes slow to get it into your hands then pick it up. You should not be at this really long. When you pick the tempo up you should feel more confident with it.

[outin]

Ranniks,
I think you should make it a habit of always making sure you can count and understand the rhythm on each indidual measure before trying to play a whole section. It's easier than trying to correct it after you can "kind of play" it through. Because then you have already practiced it the wrong way quite a few times.

For me it's quicker to get the rhythm correct for each hand if I play individual measures HT first. But if that's too difficult then you just have to count. And do that before you do anything else with the piece.