Ballades

[j_menz]

Per Henrik Nordgren: Nine Kwaidan Ballades

And there's also this

Hmm.. Nordgren is new to me, but I like it. Shopping trip looming!

Mustonen isn't, but I don't have the Ballade.

Many thanks. 

[visitor]

A jewel of a piece!

Another gem

[cbreemer]

Liadov, Liadov!!!

People always forget about my dear Liadov.

Not me I don't ! I find Liadov one of the most consistently excellent Russian piano composers. I've recorded quite some of his works (including the Ballade) and am still working on his Variations op.52 which IMO is an absolute gem, fully on a par with any such work by any other composer. Liadov rocks !

[mjames]

Lucky you! His variations are wonderful, I would love to play them but right now with my current abilities I wouldn't be able to grant them any justice. I did work on his op.39 c minor prelude, his e minor op.46, the famous d minor one, and his f minor mazurka from the op. 57 set. They're all fun pieces to play, very beautiful too. My next project on liadov will be his berceuse, which I already started working on but gave up to work on some other stuff. He's so fun, so fun. My other favorite Russian is medtner but oh god, his music is too difficult, but I am thinking about playing the arabesque from op. 7. Ahh, so much music too play, not enough brains....

[visitor]

k so I added this to my "watch later" playlist a whole back and forgot  about it.  Scriabin wrote one (or started it at least).  No clue on the score though , some of these unpublished pieces are pretty rare even from a non forgotten master

[visitor]

Skrzydlewski 

Follow along to eventually land score  sorry no records I can post at the moment, piece is worth learning. Lovely things happening in there
https://www.europeana.eu/portal/record/09404/id_oai_pbc_gda_pl_15297.html

[visitor]

Espadero 
https://gallica.bnf.fr/m/ark:/12148/btv1b7200889w

[mjames]

k so I added this to my "watch later" playlist a whole back and forgot  about it.  Scriabin wrote one (or started it at least).  No clue on the score though , some of these unpublished pieces are pretty rare even from a non forgotten master

I'm not surprised, Scriabin was a chopinophile. In fact, anyone who attempts/does write a ballade is probably a chopinophile.

[gvans]

Thanks, everyone, for introducing us to all these new gems. And many thanks for j_menz for his OP. So far, my favorites are the Faure and the York Bowen.

[goldentone]

k so I added this to my "watch later" playlist a whole back and forgot  about it.  Scriabin wrote one (or started it at least).  No clue on the score though , some of these unpublished pieces are pretty rare even from a non forgotten master

He transported the ore of this never given presentation to his Prelude Op. 11, 4.  An artist's fragments and unfinished works are of great interest to the student, and can provide a festival for conversation.

[goldentone]

Not me I don't ! I find Liadov one of the most consistently excellent Russian piano composers. I've recorded quite some of his works (including the Ballade) and am still working on his Variations op.52 which IMO is an absolute gem, fully on a par with any such work by any other composer. Liadov rocks !

I agree.  Rachfan shared with me one of his Transcendental Etudes awhile back, and it was great.  I think you'll want to look into his sonata.  The second movement is magical.  I'll look into the Ballade and Op. 52.  Sonata link:

[j_menz]

Espadero 
https://gallica.bnf.fr/m/ark:/12148/btv1b7200889w

Cool, though the website is currently "experiencing problems" as far as getting them goes. Is The "E. V. Alkan" the first is dedicated to actually Charlie?

Skrzydlewski 

Follow along to eventually land score  sorry no records I can post at the moment, piece is worth learning. Lovely things happening in there
https://www.europeana.eu/portal/record/09404/id_oai_pbc_gda_pl_15297.html

Hmm... djvu files  .   

Do you perchance have a link to the first one? That's the second, so ..... well you know. 

[cbreemer]

Lucky you! His variations are wonderful, I would love to play them but right now with my current abilities I wouldn't be able to grant them any justice.

I sometimes fear that, too. Some variations are really hard, especially the devilish coda that rivals any Chopin Prelude or Etude.

Ahh, so much music too play, not enough brains....

This is very true. I like to blame lack of time, but it's really more about brain capacity than time. I guess this is where Hamelin scores, as
much as with his infallible fingers. He can probably learn and memorize a Medtner Sonata in a couple of days. Oh wait... he's done them all, hasn't he 

[carl_h]

Ballade Op 42 by Bortkiewicz is already mentioned but there is one more I know of: 4 Pieces for Piano - Op. 10 No. 1 (1909)

[visitor]

personal fav

[pianoman1800]

Richard Clayderman! 

[outin]

Just bumped into this one:

Melartin: 2 Ballades for piano op5.
1: Två svanor (2 swans)
2: Anime sole
I have the score for the former, but the latter I've never seen.

And then another one:
Busoni: Stuecke fuer pianoforte, op.33/b: Finnische Ballade (Andante) op.33/b/5.

https://imslp.org/wiki/6_St%C3%BCcke,_Op.33b,_BV_241_(Busoni,_Ferruccio)

Of course he just ripped off a Finnish song there  

EDIT:
And if those weren't obscure enough, someone called Tauno Pylkkänen also wrote a Ballade for piano. Available for a few euros it seems:

https://www.sulasol.fi/kauppa/tuote:491/tuoteryhma:74/

Now am I curious enough...?

[j_menz]

Just bumped into this one:

Melartin: 2 Ballades for piano op5.
1: Två svanor (2 swans)
2: Anime sole
I have the score for the former, but the latter I've never seen.

It's on IMSLP.

EDIT:
And if those weren't obscure enough, someone called Tauno Pylkkänen also wrote a Ballade for piano. Available for a few euros it seems:

https://www.sulasol.fi/kauppa/tuote:491/tuoteryhma:74/

Now am I curious enough...?

Of course you are! I would be but that whole site is in Finnish with no English option - I could wind up with anything!

[gvans]

...that whole site is in Finnish with no English option - I could wind up with anything!

Ask fnork - Martin Malmgren. Has probably played the pieces as well.

He's Finnish (like the guy walking down from Mary's House of Ill Repute, the one up on the hill). The guy going up - Russian. The guy at the top - Himalayan).

[outin]

Of course you are! I would be but that whole site is in Finnish with no English option - I could wind up with anything!

OK, I could be

EDIT:
But of course I couldn't buy just that one score...they had some other obscure stuff as well and not too expensive 

[outin]

Ask fnork - Martin Malmgren. Has probably played the pieces as well.

He's Finnish (like the guy walking down from Mary's House of Ill Repute, the one up on the hill). The guy going up - Russian. The guy at the top - Himalayan).

Actually he's Swedish, just studying in Finland.

[cabbynum]

OK, so Chopin invented them and went on to write four.  Liszt wrote two, Brahms wrote four.

Who else?

Clara Schuman (1)
Grieg (1 - in the form of Variations)
Barber (1)
York Bowen (2) - btw love a link to where I can get the sheets for these!
Bolcom (1)
Franck (1)

Both Roy Agnew and Nikolai Medtner wrote Sonata Ballades.

Solo piano only, please.

How could you forget the Brahms G minor ballade?!

[j_menz]

How could you forget the Brahms G minor ballade?!

Are you suggesting that's not one of the four I mentioned?

[outin]

One more:

[j_menz]

One more:

Interesting, albeit something of an acquired taste methinks. Fortunately, available in the English bound world.

[outin]

Interesting, albeit something of an acquired taste methinks.

Someone might call it plinky 

[liszt1022]

I don't think I've seen mention of Gottschalk's Ballades, he wrote maybe 8 or more!

https://imslp.org/wiki/Ballade_No.6,_Op.85_(Gottschalk,_Louis_Moreau)
https://imslp.org/wiki/Ballade_No.7,_Op.87_(Gottschalk,_Louis_Moreau)
https://imslp.org/wiki/Ballade_No.8,_Op.90_(Gottschalk,_Louis_Moreau)

It's also possible that his publishers arbitrarily numbered these and there could only be these 3.

Has anyone posted imslp's list of ballades for piano? It does make things easier.
https://imslp.org/index.php?title=Category:Ballades&intersect=For_piano&transclude=Template:Catintro

[cabbynum]

Are you suggesting that's not one of the four I mentioned?

Yes I am

theres four

now here is the Fifth

[visitor]

Mirjana Živković - Dve balade (Two Ballads)

[j_menz]

Yes I am

theres four

now here is the Fifth

And rightly so!    I even have it! 

BTW if you take out the s in https:// in your YT links, they'll work:

[ youtube ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_ylS6_Aaak[ /youtube ]

gives:

[ youtube ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_ylS6_Aaak[ /youtube ]

gives:

[j_menz]

Mirjana Živković - Dve balade (Two Ballads)

OK, you got me. Where do I get a score?

I've got her email, phone number, address, job description and photos of her grandkids, but no publishing info!!! 

[visitor]

OK, you got me. Where do I get a score?

I've got her email, phone number, address, job description and photos of her grandkids, but no publishing info!!! 

you may have to go full blown stalker and write the girl an actual letter, she might be the nicest lady ever and it could make her day to help you find them.  Do let me know what comes of it. 

[outin]

Lennart Lundberg Ballade op 47

Which I just heard performed by Peter Jablonski, thanks to PS

And you can watch it here:

1:39

[j_menz]

Lennart Lundberg Ballade op 47

Which I just heard performed by Peter Jablonski, thanks to PS

And you can watch it here:

1:39

That's 1:39:00 for those playing at home.

Is it published?

[outin]

Is it published?

I guess since it has an op. number?

EDIT: Yes, by Lundquist Stockholm. But out of print obviously.

[visitor]

hoping this lures him out of hiding
Jenning's piano sonata, the 1st mvmnt is a ballade

https://www.davidjenningscomposer.co.uk/

[goldentone]

hoping this lures him out of hiding
Jenning's piano sonata, the 1st mvmnt is a ballade

It starts out auspicious enough, but then departs incongruously in a multi-period distress to my ears.  I can't take this sitting down.

[visitor]

It starts out auspicious enough, but then departs incongruously in a multi-period distress to my ears.  I can't take this sitting down.

it does sort of take some ques from different sources in various spots. I thought i would dislike it more than i did.  It almost sounds like Jacob Druckman at times.