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Offline iancollett6

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Waldstein questions.
on: July 01, 2013, 09:48:05 AM
Hello, 
 I have heard the Rondo is the most difficult movement in The Waldstein. To add to this, the triplets from bar 344 to 378 were described as being the most difficult in this movement.
 This observation was made by some unknown source I spotted somewhere on the internet. Does anyone agree/disagree with this.
 Are there any tips to playing this section?..
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Re: Waldstein questions.
Reply #1 on: July 01, 2013, 10:14:07 PM
Hello Ian!
I just wanted to say that Beethoven's Waldstein Sonata is a very challenging piece, so I congratulate you on your accomplishment in learning it. The triplets from bars 344 to 378 are fairly difficult to play at first, but once you practice this section slowly and with a metronome for a few weeks, or even days, it'll feel fairly comfortable in your hands, if you have any trouble with fingering, just let me know. Although it can be considered the most difficult part at first, it became the easiest for me after completing the piece, generally, I believe the hardest thing to do in this sonata, (and really any)  would be to bring out the melody at the beginning of the movement and throughout the piece.
Current pieces:

Beethoven Waldstein Sonata Op.53 No.21
Chopin Ballade No.4 Op.52
Chopin Scherzo No.3 Op.39
Rachmaninoff Concerto No.3 Op.30
Rachmaninoff Sonata No.2 Op.36
Schumann Toccata Op.

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Re: Waldstein questions.
Reply #2 on: July 02, 2013, 12:47:17 AM
Hello Ian!
I just wanted to say that Beethoven's Waldstein Sonata is a very challenging piece, so I congratulate you on your accomplishment in learning it. The triplets from bars 344 to 378 are fairly difficult to play at first, but once you practice this section slowly and with a metronome for a few weeks, or even days, it'll feel fairly comfortable in your hands, if you have any trouble with fingering, just let me know. Although it can be considered the most difficult part at first, it became the easiest for me after completing the piece, generally, I believe the hardest thing to do in this sonata, (and really any)  would be to bring out the melody at the beginning of the movement and throughout the piece.

Thanks for your response.
 If you have time would you mind downloading the free pdf of The Waldstein from this site and see if you have any suggestions on the fingering that is used in this section, is that the same fingereing that you used?
 Ive only been playing for about 5 to 6 years, and I realise what a difficult piece this is. At the moment Im only picking out small sections here and there and working on them.
 Im getting some help with my teacher.
 Maybe in about 6 years it will all start coming together!
"War is terrorism by the rich and terrorism is war by the poor." Peter Ustinov

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Re: Waldstein questions.
Reply #3 on: July 02, 2013, 12:59:44 AM
I'll see what I can do, it's a premium piece, so I can't really download it. If you have the pdf, if possible, could you screenshot the page with the fingering on it for me to take a look?
Current pieces:

Beethoven Waldstein Sonata Op.53 No.21
Chopin Ballade No.4 Op.52
Chopin Scherzo No.3 Op.39
Rachmaninoff Concerto No.3 Op.30
Rachmaninoff Sonata No.2 Op.36
Schumann Toccata Op.

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Re: Waldstein questions.
Reply #4 on: July 02, 2013, 01:21:39 AM
Hi, Ive attached the pdf. The triplets are on page 27 and 28. Once again, thanks for your time.
 Ian
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Re: Waldstein questions.
Reply #5 on: July 02, 2013, 01:36:02 PM
Hi Ian, sorry for the late reply, I was catching up on some work, thank you for a copy of the pdf, from what I can tell, I would generally follow the fingering as written for this section, I use the fingering 454212 and 353212 for the right hand, and when the section progresses to the point where both hands are playing triplets, I use 532123 and 542124 for the left hand, and play this specific order depending on whether the music calls for the 4th or 3rd finger. There are a couple places that I use slightly different fingering, and if needed I will elaborate on that more, if you have any questions please feel free to ask.
Current pieces:

Beethoven Waldstein Sonata Op.53 No.21
Chopin Ballade No.4 Op.52
Chopin Scherzo No.3 Op.39
Rachmaninoff Concerto No.3 Op.30
Rachmaninoff Sonata No.2 Op.36
Schumann Toccata Op.

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Re: Waldstein questions.
Reply #6 on: July 02, 2013, 02:27:19 PM
Thankyou for your time complexpiano, That was very kind of you.
                                       ian.
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