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Offline Plwatcher

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I have been playing the piano for many years now, but have only recently heard of focusing and concentrating while performing or even practicing. Could someone please elaborate on
A. Where to start?
B. The purpose of concentration?
C. How to do it?

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Re: Tips for concentracting and focusing while practicing/performing?
Reply #1 on: November 04, 2004, 02:20:21 AM
I'm interested too.  Sometimes when I practice, my mind goes numb or I just get zoned out from hypnotic sound.  Is there a way to make the mind more engaged?
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Re: Tips for concentracting and focusing while practicing/performing?
Reply #3 on: November 04, 2004, 03:14:19 AM
I recommend reading Kenny Werner's book "Effortless Mastery." Among other things, it teaches you (if you're willing to learn) about focusing your mind on the sound and entering a meditative state while you play. If you follow the book, you'll not only become more focused, but relaxed. He talks about finding a state where you don't play the music, but rather you allow the music to happen.

It's somewhat new-agey in philosophy, but I think it's very effective. I make all my students read the book, and whether or not they want to work with it is up to them, but I can't recommend it enough.

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Re: Tips for concentracting and focusing while practicing/performing?
Reply #4 on: November 04, 2004, 04:23:08 AM
i like to chew gum while practicing-it helps me focus on the music and less on my hands.  The problem is, now its weird playing without chewing gum and I have a performance next week...
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Re: Tips for concentracting and focusing while practicing/performing?
Reply #5 on: November 04, 2004, 02:32:02 PM
Take up a Martial Art, it will improve your concentration and focus in every area of life.

Also, you say you have been playing piano for many years now. I have to imagine that you have been concentrating and focusing all along haven't you? You "only recently heard of focusing and concentrating" - what does that mean? My bet is you've been doing it all along.. 

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Re: Tips for concentracting and focusing while practicing/performing?
Reply #6 on: November 04, 2004, 06:27:22 PM
Focusing helps.
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Re: Tips for concentracting and focusing while practicing/performing?
Reply #7 on: November 05, 2004, 12:05:21 AM
Let us add a few more thoughts on the ones already posted.

In order to understand the role of concentration in practice, it is necessary to understand two points:

1.   Piano playing is not complicated or difficult, but it is incredibly complex. This means that it consists of a large number of tasks, each isolated task in itself pretty simple and easy. It is the sheer number of tasks and the order in which they must be performed that makes piano playing complex – and apparently difficult, but the difficulty is mostly an illusion. In order to play the piano effortlessly and with great ease all you need to do is thoroughly master each and all of the simple, easy tasks, and then put them together in the correct order. The main reason why most people seem to get stuck is because they have not fully mastered the simple tasks and are trying to go to the next level of complexity straight away, or because they have not assembled the simple components in the correct order. Sometimes both.

2.   It is not possible to keep more than 7± 2  chunks of information in your consciousness. The moment you add an extra chunk, some chunk presently in your conscious mind must drop to the unconscious to make space.

From 1 and 2, it follows that you cannot possibly play the piano and be conscious of each and all individual simple component that make up the complex act of playing the piano: Piano playing must be done in large part by the unconscious mind.

But that is absolutely fine: The unconscious is perfectly fit for the job. In fact, consciousness is not needed at all except for the very important task of programming the unconscious

I like to compare the conscious and unconscious mind to a person living in a huge underground bunker. All facilities are available there: living space, kitchen, swimming pool, a huge library with every book ever written, CDs, CD players, you get the idea.

However, there is no light in this underground bunker. It is pitch black. The only source of light is a little torch light this person in the bunker carries with him. This little torch light can only illuminate a tiny portion of the bunker. But, if the person is systematic about it, he can explore the whole bunker and benefit from all that is in there by carefully directing the torch light to the different parts of the bunker and examining each room in turn. In fact, if he does this job well, he may even be able to comfortably go around the bunker with no light at all.

Now the bunker is the unconscious mind: huge, vast and full of untold treasures and knowledge. But it is all in the dark. Pitch black (it is not called the unconscious for nothing). The light from the torch is consciousness: it throws light and brings to visual perception tiny aspects of the vast bunker. It cannot illuminate more than a few items at a time. For it to illuminate some new item, some previous item will have to drop back into darkness. Finally the act of directing the torch here and there is the faculty of attention.

You can see how it is possible for someone who is systematic and disciplined to actually explore the whole bunker. You can also see how easy it is to actually waste a lot of time getting nowhere fast. For instance by not turning the torch on. Or by turning the torch on but keeping it fixed in a single point in the wall. Or by moving the torch wildly in all directions so that you can never get any good view of anything.

Keeping the torch fixated on a single object is of course important: that is concentration. But never moving the torch is absurd: that is obsession.

Now we can go back to the importance of concentration in piano practice.

People may say: practice without concentration is a waste of time. That is true, but it s also trivial. One must go deeper. One must first answer the question: concentrate on what? Since you can only concentrate (keep in consciousness immobile) on a few items, this is the most important question to be answered. It defines the aim of your practice. You may decide that you are going to concentrate on the correct fingering. That is your aim for the moment. So you put all your attention into getting the right finger on the right note. And why should you do it? Because, as you repeat, whatever you repeat is going to be ingrained in your unconscious, so you better make sure you are ingraining the correct thing. Once the correct fingering has been ingrained in your unconscious, you do not need to pay attention to it any more. You do not need to concentrate on it anymore. You will do the correct fingering automatically (which is very different from mechanically). If you do not consciously pay attention and concentrate on the fingering you cannot be sure of what is there, programmed into your unconscious mind. But your ultimate purpose is not to forever be conscious of fingering. Quite the opposite: you want the correct fingering to become unconscious and automatic as soon as possible. And the way to do it is – paradoxically  - to be utterly conscious of it to begin with.

As soon as the fingering is correctly programmed in the unconscious, let your automatic pilot deal with it, and put your conscious attention on another component, say, the correct notes at the correct time. And so on and so forth. So practice becomes a careful programming of a myriad number of simple components into your unconscious. But in order to optimise this programming you must be totally conscious of each component. That is where concentration is needed. Eventually you will not need it at all. Once the piece is ready, you will probably play 99% of the components automatically and be conscious only of the final sound. You may even let the sound be taken care of by the automatic pilot (provided you programmed it well), and just enjoy the music you are making. Since most or all of it is being done by the unconscious, you can devote all of your consciousness to fully enjoy the music.

So concentration (in the sense of conscious focus) is indispensable for practice, but may be a hindrance and ultimately unnecessary for performance.

I hope this helps.

Best wishes,
Bernhard.
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Re: Tips for concentracting and focusing while practicing/performing?
Reply #8 on: November 05, 2004, 04:40:12 AM
Hello Bernhard,

   Haven't asked you for a while. I think you've received my message about my success in applying teaching techniques that you suggested to teach my second (5 yo) child.

   From reading your reply to this thread, a situation similar to a dilemma I once asked you a few months ago (unanswered yet, it's about prioirty to develop movement for tone or speed) surfaced again. But the exact situation I've found related to your reply here is (let me quote yours first) :

Let us add a few more thoughts on the ones already posted.

One must first answer the question: concentrate on what? Since you can only concentrate (keep in consciousness immobile) on a few items, this is the most important question to be answered. It defines the aim of your practice. You may decide that you are going to concentrate on the correct fingering. That is your aim for the moment. So you put all your attention into getting the right finger on the right note.

.....   (just to shorten)

As soon as the fingering is correctly programmed in the unconscious, let your automatic pilot deal with it, and put your conscious attention on another component, say, the correct notes at the correct time.
 

I have found in a few occasions (so I didn't just assume or guess that it should happen) that after concentrating on practicing ONLY one item (like fingering) until it shifted into the unconscious, some other items (which are not welcome) was also developed into the unconscious as well, unintentionally of course. For example, it could be "wrong notes" and sometimes at "the wrong time".

If ingraining one item is completely independent of others, the above situation probably won't occur. I guess that a good teacher is again the key. But do you have a general guideline for reducing the resulted side effects like that when we are concentrating on one thing at a time.

regards,

namui
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Re: Tips for concentracting and focusing while practicing/performing?
Reply #9 on: November 06, 2004, 02:59:04 AM
Namui,

Maybe work in cycles?  Concentrate on getting fingerings right, then concentrate on tone, then concentrate on keeping the time perfect, etc.  And occasionally, just playing or trying to make it one musical whole.


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Re: Tips for concentracting and focusing while practicing/performing?
Reply #10 on: November 13, 2004, 12:29:35 PM
When giving concert recital I think what is probably really important is your confidence with the music you are presenting. I think that you have to be excited about sharing the music with the audience and have a lot to say to them about the piece is about and your own insight into the meaning of the piece. Minus the technical jargon if you play for the general public.

I think that it is a concert peformers ultimate aim to always be able to listen to themselves play no matter what environment they are in. When you practice you must listen to yourself play, you listen to every single note. That same mind set has to be like that when you play on stage. You must be able to listen to yourself as you play and that focus has to be unbreakable even with thousands of eyes looking at you. I think you also have to not give a damn about doing mistakes. Unless you're playing for an exam, making mistakes happens often, listen to Horowitz, but look at how great he made the piano sounded.

its all about your enjoyment and sharing music afterall. I think when thats warped things get too complex and strangles the mind.
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