Piano Forum

Topic: Mendelssohn: Songs Without Words, Op. 102 No. 4 in G minor  (Read 7108 times)

Offline ventus

  • PS Silver Member
  • Newbie
  • ***
  • Posts: 3

I have a question about this piece, or more precisely about its two last measures...

The thing is that there are two g minor chords that are both eighth notes and between them there are rests and yet in most editions of this piece last three measures are connected with one pedal.

So, I was wondering what would be the most appropriate way of playing those two measures considering Mendelssohn's style and other romantic era music...

P.S. I heard both interpretations: with one pedal connecting last 3 measures and with smaller pedals on every chord divided by rests. They both sound good when played well, but I was just wondering...

Offline to4ko99

  • PS Silver Member
  • Newbie
  • ***
  • Posts: 13
Re: Mendelssohn: Songs Without Words, Op. 102 No. 4 in G minor
Reply #1 on: August 14, 2013, 06:14:30 PM
I would play those chords without the pedal. Also, I would play the ending without any rubato, let the piece fade away. Just make sure those chords are played really softly.

Offline the_fervid_pig

  • PS Silver Member
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 211
Re: Mendelssohn: Songs Without Words, Op. 102 No. 4 in G minor
Reply #2 on: August 14, 2013, 06:31:01 PM
I have 2 versions of it, both different, but neither have the pedal across all 3 measures. They're both from very old editions, c.1915. One Bosworth one Joseph Williams publishing.





Not sure if this helps any. Just noticed, the 2nd one has an octave G below on the first beat of the penultimate bar, and the first one doesn't. Interesting :)
Currently learning:
Mendelssohn 19/6           Chopin 28/4
Satie Je Te Veux            Rach C#m
Poulenc Bal Fantome       Chopin 28/20
Schubert Serenade         Chopin 15/3
Chopin 10/9

Offline j_menz

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 10148
Re: Mendelssohn: Songs Without Words, Op. 102 No. 4 in G minor
Reply #3 on: August 14, 2013, 11:15:35 PM
Just noticed, the 2nd one has an octave G below on the first beat of the penultimate bar, and the first one doesn't. Interesting :)

The first one also appears to have a footnote on that note, so the discrepancy is probably explained there.

@ OP -
Have you considered dropping back to half pedal? I think it would work to do that as per the last image posted by the_ferfid_pig. Instead of lifting the pedal right off at the * marks, drop it back to half and floor it again at the Ped indications.

Above all, use your ears.
"What the world needs is more geniuses with humility. There are so few of us left" -- Oscar Levant

Offline the_fervid_pig

  • PS Silver Member
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 211
Re: Mendelssohn: Songs Without Words, Op. 102 No. 4 in G minor
Reply #4 on: August 14, 2013, 11:45:57 PM
You're right it does, and it is, apparently the 2nd one with the lower G is the original. Wonder why it was changed?
Currently learning:
Mendelssohn 19/6           Chopin 28/4
Satie Je Te Veux            Rach C#m
Poulenc Bal Fantome       Chopin 28/20
Schubert Serenade         Chopin 15/3
Chopin 10/9
For more information about this topic, click search below!

Piano Street Magazine:
New Piano Piece by Chopin Discovered – Free Piano Score

A previously unknown manuscript by Frédéric Chopin has been discovered at New York’s Morgan Library and Museum. The handwritten score is titled “Valse” and consists of 24 bars of music in the key of A minor and is considered a major discovery in the wold of classical piano music. Read more
 

Logo light pianostreet.com - the website for classical pianists, piano teachers, students and piano music enthusiasts.

Subscribe for unlimited access

Sign up

Follow us

Piano Street Digicert