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Topic: Brahms Ballade 4
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jknott
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Brahms Ballade 4
on: August 18, 2013, 07:19:31 PM
I'm currently studying this and have got to the stage where I can play it through reasonably well. The bit that's been causing me most difficulty is the second subject in f sharp major - but I thought I was getting there until I looked closely at bar 60.
Does anyone know how the second half of the bar should be played? There's a minim (with a V underneath) shown as played with the second of the triplets in the 5th crotchet beat (in a 6:4 bar)?! Not enough time left in the bar for a minim to go there! What on earth does it mean? Should it in fact be played with the first of the triplets of that beat? And does the V underneath mean anything other than an accent?
I've got the Henle score but have also checked the pianostreet versions and they are all the same.
https://www.pianostreet.com/members/gold/brahmsj/pdf/brahms_4_ballads_op10no4.pdf
I would ask my teacher but he's away for two weeks and I didn't notice it until after my lesson. So any help gratefully received.
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j_menz
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Re: Brahms Ballade 4
Reply #1 on: August 19, 2013, 12:43:51 AM
Strange scoring, but I think you just play (at he same time as it's triplet equivalent) it a bit louder and hold it as part of the middle theme. That's what I do.
An alternative would be to double the note so the "minim" lines up with the duplet in the bass, but I think that just sounds weird.
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jknott
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Re: Brahms Ballade 4
Reply #2 on: August 19, 2013, 08:46:05 PM
Many thanks J_Menz, that's helpful.
I think your first suggestion is what I was doing before I noticed the odd notation, and it certainly looks the most sensible. Still odd that the minim/half note isn't really a minim, it's a "5/12" note!
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