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searcher18
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Beethoven Sonata Op 2 No 1
on: August 20, 2013, 04:22:10 PM
I have a question about the second movement of this sonata. How should I approach the 32nd notes against 16th notes on the third page? I have dealt with strange rhythms in other pieces, but I'm having trouble with this specific rhythm. Measures 38, 39, and 43. Thanks in advance!
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j_menz
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Re: Beethoven Sonata Op 2 No 1
Reply #1 on: August 20, 2013, 11:31:14 PM
It's an 8v6 polyrhythm. Have you done any sort of polyrhythms before?
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searcher18
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Re: Beethoven Sonata Op 2 No 1
Reply #2 on: August 21, 2013, 03:36:29 AM
Thank you for your reply! I have done many 2 against 3 rhythms. Would that be helpful in learning 8v6 polyrhythms?
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Re: Beethoven Sonata Op 2 No 1
Reply #3 on: August 21, 2013, 03:47:36 AM
It's a start, certainly.
The next step is usually a 3v4 polyrhythm, but 6v8 is really just two of them joined together anyway.
You can do a general search of the forum for tips on polyrhythms, and there's much good adcvice to be had.
In a 4v3, the first and third of the 4 fall in the same place as the notes of the 2 in 2v3, and the other notes are evenly spaced between. In the sonata bit you are doing, one way is to skip every second note in the 8s. which leaves you with a basic 2v3 scheme. Get comfortable with that and then put the missing notes back in between.
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