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Offline genny

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La vallée d'obermann
on: October 18, 2013, 02:31:53 AM
Just for fun: what would you say is the level of difficulty of "la vallée d'oberman"?

I know the piece, I have my own idea for having played it, but would like your point of views...

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Re: La vallée d'obermann
Reply #1 on: October 18, 2013, 02:36:33 AM
S156/5 or S160/6?
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Re: La vallée d'obermann
Reply #2 on: October 18, 2013, 02:45:24 AM
I only know of one Vallée D'Obermann sorry... What is the difference?

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Re: La vallée d'obermann
Reply #3 on: October 18, 2013, 02:59:22 AM
S156 is an earlier version as part of the Album d'un voyager.  S160 is the better known one from Book 1 of the Annees de Pilgrimage.

Liszt was a bit of a pain with reworking pieces and not changing the names, and there are countless examples (4 different Mazeppas as one such). Such reworkings are more or less related, but can be quite different in their challenges, and such is the case here.

As I suspect the one you know is the Annees one, here is the other:

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Re: La vallée d'obermann
Reply #4 on: October 18, 2013, 03:02:03 AM
That would be the one..

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Re: La vallée d'obermann
Reply #5 on: October 18, 2013, 03:03:06 AM
I mean, the one from les années de pelerinage...

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Re: La vallée d'obermann
Reply #6 on: October 18, 2013, 03:11:35 AM
Hmm... I quite like this first version!

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Re: La vallée d'obermann
Reply #7 on: October 18, 2013, 03:15:34 AM
Hmm... I quite like this first version!

The Album d'un voyageur contains "first versions" of quite a number of the pieces in the firs book of the Annees. Not often heard, but well worth a look. Quite a lot of them are on YT as well.
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Re: La vallée d'obermann
Reply #8 on: October 18, 2013, 03:18:22 AM
I am half awake... So what about my first question? For both "versions" finally....

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Re: La vallée d'obermann
Reply #9 on: October 18, 2013, 03:25:19 AM
I need a cup of tea and a lie down after the Annees version.

I need a cognac and a nap after the Album d'un Voyageur one. It doesn't suit my hands at all, inasmuch as I have only two and of normal dimensions.
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