La vallée d'obermann

[genny]

Just for fun: what would you say is the level of difficulty of "la vallée d'oberman"?

I know the piece, I have my own idea for having played it, but would like your point of views...

[j_menz]

S156/5 or S160/6?

[genny]

I only know of one Vallée D'Obermann sorry... What is the difference?

[j_menz]

S156 is an earlier version as part of the Album d'un voyager.  S160 is the better known one from Book 1 of the Annees de Pilgrimage.

Liszt was a bit of a pain with reworking pieces and not changing the names, and there are countless examples (4 different Mazeppas as one such). Such reworkings are more or less related, but can be quite different in their challenges, and such is the case here.

As I suspect the one you know is the Annees one, here is the other:

[genny]

That would be the one..

[genny]

I mean, the one from les années de pelerinage...

[genny]

Hmm... I quite like this first version!

[j_menz]

Hmm... I quite like this first version!

The Album d'un voyageur contains "first versions" of quite a number of the pieces in the firs book of the Annees. Not often heard, but well worth a look. Quite a lot of them are on YT as well.

[genny]

I am half awake... So what about my first question? For both "versions" finally....

[j_menz]

I need a cup of tea and a lie down after the Annees version.

I need a cognac and a nap after the Album d'un Voyageur one. It doesn't suit my hands at all, inasmuch as I have only two and of normal dimensions.