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Offline jwchopin

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Long intermediate piano pieces?
on: October 27, 2013, 01:41:01 AM
I am an intermediate pianist, and I can't seem to find a song that is much longer than, like 10 minutes. Are there any piano sonatas, concertos, etc. that are around the half hour mark and are for an intermediate level. I know it's very specific so thanks in advance.

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Re: Long intermediate piano pieces?
Reply #1 on: October 27, 2013, 01:41:39 AM
Give us examples of the things that you play right now.

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Re: Long intermediate piano pieces?
Reply #2 on: October 27, 2013, 01:45:09 AM
Clementi Sonatinas, Chopin Mazurka in F major, Haydn sonata no. 10, chopin prelude in e minor.

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Re: Long intermediate piano pieces?
Reply #3 on: October 27, 2013, 02:50:03 AM
most mozart sonatas aren't that bad and they sound good.  Beethoven sonatas that are easier will be between 15 minutes and 20 minutes like opus 14 no. 1 and 2
MAYBE mozart concertos but those might be too much, maybe the easiest bach english suite, idk
its hard to find pieces that are around 30 minutes that are on the easier side i guess
Sorry, but check out the pieces i listed

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Re: Long intermediate piano pieces?
Reply #4 on: October 31, 2013, 05:45:46 PM
Mozart's Fantasia and Sonata in C, KV 475 and 457?

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Re: Long intermediate piano pieces?
Reply #5 on: October 31, 2013, 05:54:48 PM
The easier Beethoven sonatas are quite lengthy

No not the moonlight sonata

try Op. 49 no. 1 and 2

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Re: Long intermediate piano pieces?
Reply #6 on: October 31, 2013, 06:29:32 PM
The easier Beethoven sonatas are quite lengthy

No not the moonlight sonata

try Op. 49 no. 1 and 2

Those are easy. Not entry-level but still easy.

The 3 Kurfürsten-Sonaten would be intermediate. Or op. 2-1, the op. 14, and the Sonatine op. 79.

@ TO: could you name pieces that you currently play, as a reference? And I mean stand-alone pieces, not single movements from sonatas for example, or any other parts of larger works that are not generally supposed to be played on their own.

Then I could cross-check some works for you on Henle's website (which ranks pieces by difficulty, with 4-6 on a scale of 1-9 being considered 'intermediate'). The downside is that they only separately label pieces that are often played as stand-alone works, or played without all other works in the bundle (for example all Chopin preludes and Nocturnes are separately labelled, but a multi-movement work like Schumann's Carnaval isn't as it's almost always performed completely)

Actually, 'intermediate' is quite a broad term that includes everything from the easiest Chopin Nocturnes and Mazurkas, to rather demanding works like the Mozart sonata and fantasy I mentioned earlier. I like to be helpful but some more info wouldn't do any harm.

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Re: Long intermediate piano pieces?
Reply #7 on: November 01, 2013, 07:34:48 AM
Performance time of each of the sonatas are approximately 10mins. I'd rather start playing easier lengthy pieces than the hard ones!

The Mozart I'm learning is also pretty long for intermediate players like us. 1st movement is like 9-10 pages  long;( and after that we still have the 2nd and third movts left! ;(

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Re: Long intermediate piano pieces?
Reply #8 on: November 02, 2013, 02:28:18 PM
I'm also an intermediate pianist, so I think I am eligible to comment too. :P I think most early and middle classical sonatas fall into this category.

Most Mozart sonatas are very manageable for intermediate students. Mozart KV 333, for example, is very easy - you should be able to sight-read it with few errors. It has crunchy harmonies in the middle of the first movement, as well as a nice cantabile second movement, so it's definitely worth a try. I second the KV 475 sonata - it's considerably less sight-readable, but very beautiful and the only technical difficulties are the octaves and sixths, which can be perfected with a bit of practice and the right fingerings.

How about the Beethoven WoO sonatas? It's amazing what a teenage Beethoven could write. Again, they're easy enough to sight-read (though somewhat more difficult than Mozart 333) but very nice to play.

I've never played Haydn or CPE Bach sonatas before, but I judging by what I've listened to, I think they'll also do the trick (although I prefer Mozart to them). For more challenging sonatas, maybe try Clementi? I absolutely adore Clementi sonatas, and I think they're better than Mozart's. A suite from Gradus Ad Parnassum is not a bad idea either.

EDIT: Just realised I misread the OP. The works I've listed are more like 15 minutes than half an hour, LOL. um... maybe a nice suite?
-Bach partitas and suites
-Schumann Kinderszenen, when Thal is not watching (excellent sight-reading practice with the accidentals and stuff)
Chopin Op 18, Op 53, 62/2, 37/2, 10/12
Fauré Nocturne 5
Bach English Suite 3
Brahms 79/2

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Re: Long intermediate piano pieces?
Reply #9 on: November 03, 2013, 02:02:50 AM
Most Mozart sonatas are very manageable for intermediate students. Mozart KV 333, for example, is very easy - you should be able to sight-read it with few errors. It has crunchy harmonies in the middle of the first movement, as well as a nice cantabile second movement, so it's definitely worth a try....
K. 333 is easy? I just heard someone just played that sonata as part of her doctoral recital.  ;D
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