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danielle1990

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What is this piece??

on: November 10, 2013, 02:35:07 PM

Does anybody know the name/composer of this piece?

It starts at 1:00:34
I hope somebody recognize it! Thanks

I've been searching it for a while now! The desciption beneath the video isn't correct.. It says Chopin - Preludio In Mi Minore Op. 28 N. 4, but that's not right..

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Reply #1 on: November 10, 2013, 03:19:11 PM

Chopin Minute Waltz.

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Reply #2 on: November 10, 2013, 03:22:21 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minute_Waltz

Waltz in D-flat major, Op. 64, No. 1, popularly known as the Minute Waltz

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Reply #3 on: November 10, 2013, 03:33:18 PM

That's not the piece I meant.. It's after the Minute Waltz.. On my computer it starts exactly on 1:00:34

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Reply #4 on: November 10, 2013, 03:39:38 PM

Here's a more useful link:
https://youtu.be/uYaPF5wZNEo?t=1h34s

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Reply #5 on: November 10, 2013, 10:58:22 PM

According to the list below it's supposed to be: Chopin - Prelude Op. 28 N. 4, which it clearly isn't.

It sounds very much like Handel.

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Reply #6 on: November 11, 2013, 12:21:37 PM

Oke thank you.. I will search through the music of Handel.. I hope I can find it!
So, if anybody else knows this piece, please let me know

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Reply #7 on: November 17, 2013, 09:46:46 AM

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Reply #8 on: November 17, 2013, 03:58:29 PM

You could try contacting the publisher or whoever this business is...

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Halidonmusic/605037506206405
https://twitter.com/HALIDONMUSIC
https://stores.ebay.com/Halidon-Music-Store/Punk-/_i.html?_fsub=2491815017

If they respond. Maybe they would know more. It's got their name attached to incorrect information.

The chord progressions might tell us more about which time period it's from.

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Reply #9 on: December 14, 2013, 11:23:18 AM

I tried that.... They didn't answer me

Still don't know what it is! Does anyone have a clue??

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danielle1990

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Reply #10 on: December 14, 2013, 11:33:18 AM

Oh, I see that they edit the description beneath the video. It's now:
Anonimo - Piano Sonata ( 1:00:34 )
So, they don't even know what the piece is...

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Reply #11 on: February 22, 2015, 03:22:06 AM

danielle1990 - did you ever find out what the piece is? My son loves this piece and wants to learn to play it.

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Reply #12 on: February 22, 2015, 03:54:20 AM

Did Smetana ever write any piano pieces? Because it really reminded me (texturally - a little) of Smetana's Ma Vlast...

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Reply #13 on: February 22, 2015, 04:36:48 AM

Quote from: perfect_pitch on February 22, 2015, 03:54:20 AM

Did Smetana ever write any piano pieces?

Quite a lot of them.

Barenreiter publishes quite a few. Schott does a "best of" volume.

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Reply #14 on: February 22, 2015, 10:21:14 PM

Is that a duet? That would explain why it sounds a bit heavy...

Is it possible for one person to reach all that?

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Reply #15 on: February 22, 2015, 10:28:48 PM

I'm hearing...
e to G
a to C
back to e eventually.

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Reply #16 on: February 22, 2015, 10:52:06 PM

Sounds to me like a transcription of Bach (but possibly someone else) done by someone like Reger or Siloti, but a quick search on YouTube didn't bring me any confirmation. I think it is one pianist playing. as I can't hear any chords or passages completely unreachable by two hands.

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Reply #17 on: February 23, 2015, 02:19:24 AM

What about a Liszt transcription?

Or something originally for organ?

Is the left hand octaves? Who writes like that, unless it's an arrangement or transcription?

It does play with that one motive a lot. Something Bach would do. I don't know about the modulation (or tonicization) though....

I'll dig up a book that might help....

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Reply #18 on: February 23, 2015, 03:25:25 AM

So much for Barlow's Thematic Dictionary....

This almost sounds like an etude. It's short. The treble is just running down a triad. The bass is doing the opposite.

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Reply #19 on: February 23, 2015, 04:06:43 AM

Sounds like Baroque concerto / concerto grosso in E minor arranged for four hands, if that helps.

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Reply #20 on: February 23, 2015, 11:36:25 AM

Quote from: liszt1022 on February 23, 2015, 04:06:43 AM

Sounds like Baroque concerto / concerto grosso in E minor arranged for four hands, if that helps.

Sounds a little too Romantic I think for the Baroque period... in my opinion.

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Reply #21 on: March 11, 2015, 04:04:52 AM

Quote from: mikeowski on November 10, 2013, 03:39:38 PM

Here's a more useful link:
https://youtu.be/uYaPF5wZNEo?t=1h34s

Hi,

some parts of the piece sounded familiar to me. At first, as others stated, too, I thought of a transcription e.g. by Stradal, slightly varied, of the Brandenburg Concerto Nr. 3, G major.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPNbuOklgHY

https://javanese.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/1/1b/IMSLP25251-PMLP05337-Bach_-_Stradal_-_Brandenburg_No.3.pdf

( There are e-minor parts in it, too, but one could refer to the beginning, too, I think. )

But I thought further, back into the past times, when long forgotten but super films were made.. .

Please listen to the questionable piece which is in my quote of mikeowski above, again, but start from exactly 1:01:00 ...

and then... listen to this one, from ca. 1:08 or from ca. 2:05:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTpjlvFWvi0

So, may be a modern composition, disguised as an "old" one?

Please note, that on this list,

https://www.halidon.it/musica-c1-artisti_vari_il_pianoforte_the_best_of_piano-g3318.html

an "anonymus-sonata" isn't mentioned ( but 4 numbers seem to be missing, too, perhaps movements (?), according to the counting ). ( And note that the 1st Liszt-Concert isn't in "IN MI BEMOLLE MINORE", but should be in "mi bemolle MAGGIORE". )

So, may be, the "anonymus sonata" could have been a Youtuber's joke.

Or, someone will find out more about it.

Good night, everyone, and greetings from: 8_octaves!

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Reply #22 on: March 28, 2016, 12:05:56 AM

Just wondering whether anyone has an information about this piece that has been discussed way back in 2013. I heard it recently and fell in love with it. Need to find it! Please help!!

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danielle1990

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Reply #23 on: August 25, 2016, 08:41:27 AM

Still don't know what it is....
So, maybe there is someone now who knows it?

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Reply #24 on: August 25, 2016, 09:08:55 AM

Quote from: danielle1990 on August 25, 2016, 08:41:27 AM

Still don't know what it is....
So, maybe there is someone now who knows it?

Have you compared the recording to the anonymous sonata listing posted on imslp.org?

https://imslp.org/index.php?title=Category:Anonymous&pagefrom=Pavane+0018+a+0006~~anonymous%0APavane+18+%C3%A0+6+%28Anonymous%29#mw-pages

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Reply #25 on: August 25, 2016, 01:12:37 PM

Just my $.02 worth:

I think those who have suggested an arrangement of something from the organ repertoire may be on the right track. It definitely seems to have organ-ic texture. It's clearly an arrangement from the 19th century or early 20th. Because of the mono-thematic quality though, I wondered if it might be an arrangement of the Sinfonia from one of Bach's Cantatas...? Unfortunately, I don't know them well enough to recognize more than a couple.

best wishes,
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Reply #26 on: August 25, 2016, 09:59:05 PM

Quote from: dogperson on August 25, 2016, 09:08:55 AM

Have you compared the recording to the anonymous sonata listing posted on imslp.org?

https://imslp.org/index.php?title=Category:Anonymous&pagefrom=Pavane+0018+a+0006~~anonymous%0APavane+18+%C3%A0+6+%28Anonymous%29#mw-pages

The following pages are in this category, out of 994 total.

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Reply #27 on: August 27, 2016, 04:10:58 PM

This is a Beethoven piece, BAGATELLE: Fur Elise WoO 59

It is a very popular piece of music for piano students to learn how to play but it is difficult to achieve a good standard of performance. You can download the pianostreet instructive score on this website.
Hope that helps.

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Reply #28 on: August 27, 2016, 04:37:37 PM

Quote from: jockey on August 27, 2016, 04:10:58 PM

This is a Beethoven piece, BAGATELLE: Fur Elise WoO 59

It is a very popular piece of music for piano students to learn how to play but it is difficult to achieve a good standard of performance. You can download the pianostreet instructive score on this website.
Hope that helps.

Nope, afraid you are listening to an incorrect section of the recording:

Quote from: mikeowski on November 10, 2013, 03:39:38 PM

Here's a more useful link:
https://youtu.be/uYaPF5wZNEo?t=1h34s

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Reply #29 on: December 19, 2016, 05:12:39 AM

I've read your question and I am pretty sure I've got the answer.
How I find my answer. I opended up siri and ask "what is this song?", and suprisingly it got it. The name of the song is Charlie Mac - Honky Tonk

Youtube:

If this helped you please reply me. Thanks

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Reply #30 on: December 19, 2016, 06:02:54 AM

Quote from: mikeowski on November 10, 2013, 03:39:38 PM

Here's a more useful link:
https://youtu.be/uYaPF5wZNEo?t=1h34s

I listened to this just now. Here are my thoughts after 1 quick hearing (actually I did not listen to all of it): This sounds like it was written by a current pop composer composing kind of in the style of Handel or other Baroque composer. Sort of like Karl Jenkins who wrote Palladio (the Debeers diamonds music). Palladio kind of sounds like Vivaldi. I know this doesn’t help much. Just my $.02 worth.

Edit: I just listened to the first 1 minute again. This piece actually sounds less authentic to me than "Palladio". I will be very surprised if it was not written by a pop composer. Not the best quality music to my ears (to say it as nicely as I can). Schlock art imo. I do kind of like the Diamond song "Palladio" though.

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Reply #31 on: December 19, 2016, 05:44:45 PM

Quote from: sky28239 on December 19, 2016, 05:12:39 AM

I've read your question and I am pretty sure I've got the answer.
How I find my answer. I opended up siri and ask "what is this song?", and suprisingly it got it. The name of the song is Charlie Mac - Honky Tonk

Youtube:

If this helped you please reply me. Thanks

And yet it ended up on a classical music compilation CD put out in 2013 at the latest?

This does say 2013 also though....
https://charliemacuk.bandcamp.com/album/instrumentals-vol-iii

I'm still thinking that's just borrowed, maybe even the exact audio off the original CD. If no one can find the piece or composer there won't be any copyright policy knocking on doors unless this other CD starts making a lot of money.

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