Intermediate level etudes?

[jwchopin]

A lot of people say to play etudes rather than do technical exercises, in which I completely agree with. As an RCM Grade 5 piano player (My repertoire is Chopin Nocturne 21, Mozart K545, Sonatina in F Beethoven, and I use the first two clementi sonatinas as a warm up), I've found that all etudes are very difficult and are for very advanced pianists. Can anyone recommend any easier etudes, because they are much more fun to play than exercises.

[classicalnhiphop]

From liszt, you could TRY waulderashaun (don't know the spelling), from chopin, you could possibly do his easier ones like opus 25 no. 1 and 2 and opus 10 no. 3.  Moskowski ones are also fun and some aren't really that bad.  Perhaps do scarlatti sonatas that aren't not too hard, they are fun and help as well.

[outin]

There are plenty of easier etudes. Heller and Burgmüller come to mind.

[leroy199]

Heller Op 45 , 46 and 47 

Bertini Op 29, 32

Burgmuller Op 100 and Op 109 that are a bit harder but consider to be intermediate

I would also recommend Czerny Op 849

and if that is too easy then go for Op 299 there will be allot to prepare you for the more harder etudes of others composers but i wound definitely not advise you any Chopin etudes if you are not ready it would only be wasting your time.
Voila I hope this helps

[jwchopin]

I think I will do this one. How should I go about doing it though? Should I learn all of them once and never play them again or continue to play selected ones?

[1piano4joe]

Personally, I like the RCM etudes. I get a variety of composers, periods and styles at each level that corresponds with the RCM repertoire levels.

Yes, I've done Czerny. He's in there. Burgmuller, he's in there. Heller, of course. So I get a mix of Bertini and Concone and Duvernoy all from RCM.

So, why should I stick to one opus from a single composer? I used to do that exclusively. I find the variety more stimulating and motivating. I feel I am getting the best of these composer's etudes as they were selected by experts for their pedagogical value.

My technique has really grown from these etudes. Also, they go up to Grade 10 so finding the appropriate level is less of an issue. I've decided to do all 10 etude books. I have completed the first 4 grades of etudes. Somewhere around 60 short 1 or 2 page etudes I guess.

I have enjoyed many of these as musical pieces in their own right. I don't even think of them as etudes but as pieces I really would like to learn to play.

I am currently working on RCM grades 5,6 and 7 etudes.

I am working on about 45 different etudes. I have detailed notes on each one. It's the only way I can keep track of when I practiced each one last and how I practiced and my progress.

This is way too many pieces for me but I'm dealing with it. Lately, I have just been concentrating on a handful of these and sticking with them. This is more manageable.

And yes they are definitely much more fun to play than exercises, Joe.

[leroy199]

Jwchopin im not sure i understand your question but i will try and answer anyway.
 I would personally not do more then one etude at a time, do one etude and finish it make sure its up to a decent tempo and well polished then go to your next chosen etude. after you can always come back to your previous piece and you will see that you would have most likely progressed.

if you do too many etudes you may get lost in them Its more important to have a healthy repertoire, make sure your repertoire is diverse that you are playing some baroque, classical, romantic and modern pieces too.   They are just ass much an etude as any etude specially Bach inventions and small Prelude and fugues, that is if you are not already playing him.

[apollon1717]

A lot of people say to play etudes rather than do technical exercises, in which I completely agree with. As an RCM Grade 5 piano player (My repertoire is Chopin Nocturne 21, Mozart K545, Sonatina in F Beethoven, and I use the first two clementi sonatinas as a warm up), I've found that all etudes are very difficult and are for very advanced pianists. Can anyone recommend any easier etudes, because they are much more fun to play than exercises.

Hi..
Exercises or scales do not need to be boring.
You can transpose exercises...or make your own variations..f.e.
Play the 1st Hanon ex. in "mirror" image ..use diff.rhythms..even invent some "non standard" rhythms
Playing ex.'s need to be done with full understanding of the particular difficulty being practised...

But if you really want to do some etudes look for Pozzoli...not easy but wonderfull music..
Available on IMSLP...

[alpacinator1]

From liszt, you could TRY waulderashaun (don't know the spelling), from chopin, you could possibly do his easier ones like opus 25 no. 1 and 2 and opus 10 no. 3.  Moskowski ones are also fun and some aren't really that bad.  Perhaps do scarlatti sonatas that aren't not too hard, they are fun and help as well.

How could you recommend those to a grade 5 student?

[outin]

How could you recommend those to a grade 5 student?

People can do such silly things easily...
At least he got something right, there are quite a few suitable Scarlatti sonatas.