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Offline hamishscott4

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Which etudes should I learn?
on: December 01, 2013, 09:58:50 AM
Hi,

I have just leant Chopin's Fantasie Impromptu and Beethoven's Pathetique Sonata and I would like to learn some etudes to improve my technique as well as learning a new performable piece?

Which should I learn and in what order?

Thanks

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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #1 on: December 01, 2013, 11:42:10 AM
I would recommend Czerny Etudes Op.740. Some of them are really beautiful but all of them would give you a technical benefits. My teacher says that before Chopin etudes you should master at least 5 etudes from the OP.740. But if you feel that you can handle Chopin etudes go for it! I also understand that Czerny etudes are NOT concert etudes....

There are lot of concert etudes you could play...have a look at Henselt etude Op.2 and Op.5, Scriabin etudes Op.8, Liszt Concert etudes, Liszt Paganini etudes, maybe you'd find that some of Rachmaninoff "easier" etudes would fit you. I also love Mendelssohn etudes Op.104.
Bach-Prelude and Fugue 2
Mozart-Sonata 545
Schubert-Klavierstucke D946 - 1, 2
Chopin-Etude 10/9, 25/12
Liszt-Un Sospiro
Rachmaninoff-Prelude 23/5, 3/2

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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #2 on: December 01, 2013, 02:43:16 PM
La Campanella is a good choice, all things considered. But, personally, I'd recommend learning Chopin's Ocean Etude or Revolutionary Etude.
Per novitatem, artium est renascatur.

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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #3 on: December 01, 2013, 08:27:18 PM
La Campanella is a good choice, all things considered. But, personally, I'd recommend learning Chopin's Ocean Etude or Revolutionary Etude.

Don't you think it's sort of a huge jump going from chopin's impromptu to La Campanella?
Chopin First Scherzo
Guarnieri Ponteios
Ravel Sonatine
Rachmaninoff Prelude op. 32 no. 10
Schumann Kinderszenen
Debussy Brouillards
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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #4 on: December 01, 2013, 08:29:35 PM
Don't you think it's sort of a huge jump going from chopin's impromptu to La Campanella?

I apologize in advance for having nothing worthwhile to contribute to this thread, but that's punny. Haha, jump.

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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #5 on: December 01, 2013, 08:30:10 PM
ya, la campanella is one of liszt's hardest etudes, from the standard versions of all the etudes.  Try one of Liszt's concert etudes like gnomenreigen or un sospiro.

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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #6 on: December 01, 2013, 08:33:44 PM
Don't you think it's sort of a huge jump going from chopin's impromptu to La Campanella?

It really depends on tempo, but you're probably right.
Per novitatem, artium est renascatur.

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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #7 on: December 01, 2013, 08:34:37 PM
I apologize in advance for having nothing worthwhile to contribute to this thread, but that's punny. Haha, jump.

I laughed out loud  ;D ;D
Chopin First Scherzo
Guarnieri Ponteios
Ravel Sonatine
Rachmaninoff Prelude op. 32 no. 10
Schumann Kinderszenen
Debussy Brouillards
Bach, Bach, Bach...

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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #8 on: December 01, 2013, 10:26:46 PM
I apologize in advance for having nothing worthwhile to contribute to this thread, but that's punny. Haha, jump.

I don't get it.  :-[
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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #9 on: December 02, 2013, 12:17:59 AM
I don't get it.  :-[

Play just a few measures of La Campanella and then come back here  ;)
Chopin First Scherzo
Guarnieri Ponteios
Ravel Sonatine
Rachmaninoff Prelude op. 32 no. 10
Schumann Kinderszenen
Debussy Brouillards
Bach, Bach, Bach...

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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #10 on: December 02, 2013, 12:43:04 AM
Play just a few measures of La Campanella and then come back here  ;)

Widely spaced notes do not jumps make, unless you choose to let them.
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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #11 on: December 02, 2013, 01:21:00 AM
Widely spaced notes do not jumps make, unless you choose to let them.

How do you play that without jumping from one note to note???? Teach me master yoda
Chopin First Scherzo
Guarnieri Ponteios
Ravel Sonatine
Rachmaninoff Prelude op. 32 no. 10
Schumann Kinderszenen
Debussy Brouillards
Bach, Bach, Bach...

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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #12 on: December 02, 2013, 01:24:42 AM
How do you play that without jumping from one note to note???? Teach me master yoda

It's a matter of how you think abut it.

Jump = note + leap + landing, and often a lot more thought goes into the leap than the arrival.

It should be note + note, with the journey between left to it's own devices. Think of the arrival, not how you get there, and trust your body to cope. Surprisingly, it will.
"What the world needs is more geniuses with humility. There are so few of us left" -- Oscar Levant

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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #13 on: December 06, 2013, 09:05:43 PM
It's a matter of how you think abut it.

Jump = note + leap + landing, and often a lot more thought goes into the leap than the arrival.

It should be note + note, with the journey between left to it's own devices. Think of the arrival, not how you get there, and trust your body to cope. Surprisingly, it will.

You're never any fun :P
Clementi, Piano Sonata in G Minor, No. 3, op. 10
W. A. Mozart, Sonata for Piano Four-Hands in F Major, K. 497
Beethoven, Piano Concerto, No. 2, op. 19

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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #14 on: December 06, 2013, 10:10:06 PM
As a frankly commercial, but still musically relevant answer, I suggest you learn MINE. 25 Etudes, using symmetry, mirroring, and intervallic control to create music of many different moods and colors. Some slow, some fast, some wide lines and fragmented segments, some smooth melodies and quiet moods. Not your usual Chopin, Debussy, or even Czerny.
   All the pieces have numbers as titles, they're labels, really. They refer to the interval(s) used for each piece, from the 1/2 step to the tritone and all the possible combinations. 0.5 = the half-step piece, 1.0 the whole-step one, etc.
   They are available as a set, spiral bound, large-format, from J.W. Pepper. Here is a link to the page in question.
    https://www.jwpepper.com/10341556.item#.UqJK-tJDtHk

88melter

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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #15 on: December 07, 2013, 03:09:38 AM
I would recommend Czerny Etudes Op.740. Some of them are really beautiful but all of them would give you a technical benefits. My teacher says that before Chopin etudes you should master at least 5 etudes from the OP.740. But if you feel that you can handle Chopin etudes go for it! I also understand that Czerny etudes are NOT concert etudes....

There are lot of concert etudes you could play...have a look at Henselt etude Op.2 and Op.5, Scriabin etudes Op.8, Liszt Concert etudes, Liszt Paganini etudes, maybe you'd find that some of Rachmaninoff "easier" etudes would fit you. I also love Mendelssohn etudes Op.104.

Also add Emil Sauer concert etudes.  These are some only favorites of all performance etudes.

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Re: Which etudes should I learn?
Reply #16 on: December 07, 2013, 02:54:35 PM
Try to figure out your weakness and find the right piece that can overcome your weakness! I'm currently working on Chopin's etude and it really helps!
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