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Offline chicoscalco

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About Ravel's Sonatine
on: December 08, 2013, 05:52:41 PM
I hate seeing "difficulty measuring" posts, as I believe they are impossible to answer.  What I am asking is a bit different. How would you rank this sonatine in comparison with other sonatas? I find it very difficult to classify this piece because although it is a sonatine, 14-15 pages long, it requires a lot of the performer. Would you  classify this as a lesser work, or it is in the same rank as whole sonatas? I understand that this sounds weird, but I'm not a native speaker so in portuguese it all made more sense.

The reason why I ask this is because in january I'm going to have classes with Cristina Ortiz, and people told be that it would be advisable to have a grand scale work to present and work on. Does the sonatine count as one? Thank you very much for your answers!  ;D
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Re: About Ravel's Sonatine
Reply #1 on: December 08, 2013, 10:52:05 PM
Technically, it is not a difficult one . But musically, it is indeed a very rich and fine masterpiece ,I believe that if you study it seriously ,you will learn lot from it.
And for me ,the sonatine is the door ,through which allows pianists to know Ravel.
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Re: About Ravel's Sonatine
Reply #2 on: December 08, 2013, 11:02:13 PM
Technically, it is not a difficult one . But musically, it is indeed a very rich and fine masterpiece ,I believe that if you study it seriously ,you will learn lot from it.
And for me ,the sonatine is the door ,through which allows pianists to know Ravel.

Sorry, but I couldn't find my answer...  :P
I have already studied very seriously, it has been in my repertoire for quite some time, but I wanted to know if it can be ranked as a grand scale work, as the other sonatas do. Or if, just because of its size, it cannot. And I disagree about the technical difficulty. Technique has everything to do with musicality, something wich this piece requires a lot.
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Re: About Ravel's Sonatine
Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 01:47:10 AM
No insights?  :-[
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Offline invictious

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Re: About Ravel's Sonatine
Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 08:32:04 AM
It is quite a difficult piece of work, especially in the third movement, which I think is the most exciting of them all.

In general, this work requires such attention to detail and finesse to really bring out its character. Needless to say, this sonatina is a true pleasure to listen to and to play.

It probably is not ranked along as a grand-scale work. Yet, mastering this piece is highly rewarding and I encourage you to pursue learning this piece regardless if it is a grand scale work or not.
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