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Offline jsen

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Learn a new concerto
on: December 11, 2013, 10:17:03 PM
Hello!
Do you think is it possible to learn a full concerto in 2 months during summer time (so, no classes) to enter in a competition? It doesn't need to be a Rach concert or Tchaikosvky, can be Beethoven or Mozart concert, for example...

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Offline yohankwon

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Re: Learn a new concerto
Reply #1 on: December 11, 2013, 10:44:39 PM
It's different for everyone. One can learn a concerto in two weeks, or two months, or even two years. If you're a quick learner you could give it a shot, and it also depends on difficulty.

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Re: Learn a new concerto
Reply #2 on: December 11, 2013, 11:16:18 PM
Why not start now so that by the time summer comes you'll be done and you'll be polishing the piece.
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Re: Learn a new concerto
Reply #3 on: December 12, 2013, 12:16:06 AM
Why not start now so that by the time summer comes you'll be done and you'll be polishing the piece.

I agree. No need to rush yourself. Even if you just worked on it a bit now like working out the fingerings and finding technically difficult spots. If you plan to wait until summer then I think you would be taking a risk because it may or may not work well.
Clementi, Piano Sonata in G Minor, No. 3, op. 10
W. A. Mozart, Sonata for Piano Four-Hands in F Major, K. 497
Beethoven, Piano Concerto, No. 2, op. 19

Offline enochy

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Re: Learn a new concerto
Reply #4 on: December 13, 2013, 10:49:10 PM
Summer vacation aren't usually enough to perfect it unless you're planning on practicing 2 hours a day or more.
Try starting now.

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Re: Learn a new concerto
Reply #5 on: December 13, 2013, 11:22:15 PM
unless you're planning on practicing 2 hours a day or more.

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How many hours do you practice normally? I may be wrong, but the way you said that, it sounded as if 2 hours were a lot. For a student still focusing on technique and repertoire, especially concertos, 2 hours is, IMO, unthinkable. I'd say 6 hours, minimum. But that's just me. Still, by any standars, 2 hours a day is not enough.
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Re: Learn a new concerto
Reply #6 on: December 13, 2013, 11:27:03 PM
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How many hours do you practice normally? I may be wrong, but the way you said that, it sounded as if 2 hours were a lot. For a student still focusing on technique and repertoire, especially concertos, 2 hours is, IMO, unthinkable. I'd say 6 hours, minimum. But that's just me. Still, by any standars, 2 hours a day is not enough.

I agree, I balance school and work and get a minimum of 4 hours in a day. I still don't feel like I get enough in.
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Re: Learn a new concerto
Reply #7 on: December 17, 2013, 01:29:07 AM
:o
How many hours do you practice normally? I may be wrong, but the way you said that, it sounded as if 2 hours were a lot. For a student still focusing on technique and repertoire, especially concertos, 2 hours is, IMO, unthinkable. I'd say 6 hours, minimum. But that's just me. Still, by any standars, 2 hours a day is not enough.

I practice 1 hour at least. I go to the number 1 middle school in the state and the amount of work and studying I need is unthinkable. It's like 9:00PM by the time I'm done. Since I have to get to school at around 5:30AMish, I try to go to bed by at least 10:30.

Although my method of practice is I'd say pretty good. The first week I get a music, I read through the music straight through. After that, I just focus on the parts I have trouble with and repeating it. (I still practice the easy parts but not as much). After that, (around the 13th week), I play the whole piece again.

During vacation, I do 4 hour practices. Quick 5 minute break in between every 30 minutes. I usually focus better after each break.

I don't have a concerto to play yet, I'm just assuming the piece he/she is going to play is an average 10 minute piece.

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Re: Learn a new concerto
Reply #8 on: December 17, 2013, 02:04:13 AM
Although my method of practice is I'd say pretty good. The first week I get a music, I read through the music straight through. After that, I just focus on the parts I have trouble with and repeating it. (I still practice the easy parts but not as much). After that, (around the 13th week), I play the whole piece again.

Interesting. You just repeat the hard parts. What do you want to do with music? Do you want to be a pianist in the future?
Clementi, Piano Sonata in G Minor, No. 3, op. 10
W. A. Mozart, Sonata for Piano Four-Hands in F Major, K. 497
Beethoven, Piano Concerto, No. 2, op. 19

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Re: Learn a new concerto
Reply #9 on: December 17, 2013, 02:54:41 AM
I practice 1 hour at least. I go to the number 1 middle school in the state and the amount of work and studying I need is unthinkable. It's like 9:00PM by the time I'm done. Since I have to get to school at around 5:30AMish, I try to go to bed by at least 10:30.

Although my method of practice is I'd say pretty good. The first week I get a music, I read through the music straight through. After that, I just focus on the parts I have trouble with and repeating it. (I still practice the easy parts but not as much). After that, (around the 13th week), I play the whole piece again.

During vacation, I do 4 hour practices. Quick 5 minute break in between every 30 minutes. I usually focus better after each break.

I don't have a concerto to play yet, I'm just assuming the piece he/she is going to play is an average 10 minute piece.


Do you have time to have lessons with a teacher?
Chopin First Scherzo
Guarnieri Ponteios
Ravel Sonatine
Rachmaninoff Prelude op. 32 no. 10
Schumann Kinderszenen
Debussy Brouillards
Bach, Bach, Bach...

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Re: Learn a new concerto
Reply #10 on: December 17, 2013, 03:02:59 AM
I go to an arts school. I take piano and violin in school. :P

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Re: Learn a new concerto
Reply #11 on: December 17, 2013, 03:33:00 AM
I go to an arts school. I take piano and violin in school. :P

I would disagree about you're method of practice than. I think mindless repetition is not beneficial, even detrimental to you're musicality and technique. This is just my opinion. I think you should find direction in the music, the shape of the phrase, and the emotion being depicted. Repetition could be alright for fixing a technical problem but not mindless repetition. I think music is more complex than just going over a spot a lot. Hard spots and easy spots are very similar. The only difference is technique. Once you've mastered the technical aspect of a piece you still have a LONG way to go! Hopefully you know this. The music will be a journey alright! Good luck!
Clementi, Piano Sonata in G Minor, No. 3, op. 10
W. A. Mozart, Sonata for Piano Four-Hands in F Major, K. 497
Beethoven, Piano Concerto, No. 2, op. 19
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