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Offline ranniks

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Bach bwv 935 Prelude in D minor page 1
on: January 22, 2014, 08:36:24 PM
This took me a long time and a lot of practise to be able to play at this level. I got engulfed by classical music today and even though I realize there is a note mistake in the left hand somewhere, I'm happy I got to record this, because it is my best performance of this piece up until now.

I hope you enjoyed it. Feedback would be welcome! :)

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Re: Bach bwv 935 Prelude in D minor page 1
Reply #1 on: January 22, 2014, 11:06:05 PM
Nicely done.

Timing is good generally but the tempo fluctuates a little. Those last semiquavers in the bass are semiquavers, not the quavers you played. You can do a rit, but don't change the note values.
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Re: Bach bwv 935 Prelude in D minor page 1
Reply #2 on: January 23, 2014, 12:19:29 AM
Nicely done.

Timing is good generally but the tempo fluctuates a little. Those last semiquavers in the bass are semiquavers, not the quavers you played. You can do a rit, but don't change the note values.

Thank you very much!

The tempo fluctations need to go, but I hope they go away in a few months after the piece is fortified with more practise. This piece is grade 5 but I think it will take me months before I can play it with the correct tempo and all. It is very taxing for me at this stage.

Is a rit the downfall of notes in the end? I went a bit over the top with improvising at the end, sorry. I entirely forgot the bass notes/was ignorant of them. Once again, forgive this fool for his ignorance. Bach is blessed and needs to be treated so. :)

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Re: Bach bwv 935 Prelude in D minor page 1
Reply #3 on: January 23, 2014, 01:57:18 AM
Bach is blessed and needs to be treated so. :)

Both ideas would horrify him.  In practice, go as far you like. You can't break Bach.  In performance, you'll then know the boundaries and can flirt with them.  There are all too many reverentially timid performances out there.
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Re: Bach bwv 935 Prelude in D minor page 1
Reply #4 on: January 23, 2014, 09:23:34 AM
Both ideas would horrify him.  In practice, go as far you like. You can't break Bach.  In performance, you'll then know the boundaries and can flirt with them.  There are all too many reverentially timid performances out there.

Are you sure? I meant what I said about Bach being holy. So I guess you're saying it's okay to improvise, but keep to the time of the bar/note/technical wise.

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Re: Bach bwv 935 Prelude in D minor page 1
Reply #5 on: January 23, 2014, 11:15:54 AM
Cannot listen now, but will do later. Ritardando means slowing down the tempo intentionally, usually done at the end if the piece. Or if indicated by the composer.

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Re: Bach bwv 935 Prelude in D minor page 1
Reply #6 on: January 23, 2014, 03:25:40 PM
Thanks for sharing this  ;)
On bar 13 on, i would try playing the upper voice like the bass in bar 9, since its the same motiv,so either i would either try to play both staccato or both legato (that being only my opinion).

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Re: Bach bwv 935 Prelude in D minor page 1
Reply #7 on: January 23, 2014, 04:58:02 PM
Listened to it now... just work a little bit on the tempo issues and it will be good. Have you tried counting in your head as you play?

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Re: Bach bwv 935 Prelude in D minor page 1
Reply #8 on: January 23, 2014, 05:41:41 PM
Cannot listen now, but will do later. Ritardando means slowing down the tempo intentionally, usually done at the end if the piece. Or if indicated by the composer.

Oh thanks! :)

Thanks for sharing this  ;)
On bar 13 on, i would try playing the upper voice like the bass in bar 9, since its the same motiv,so either i would either try to play both staccato or both legato (that being only my opinion).


I tihnk I'm going for staccato then, I like that more in Bach.

Listened to it now... just work a little bit on the tempo issues and it will be good. Have you tried counting in your head as you play?

Thanks! I havn't tried counting, but at the beginning when I started this piece I used a metronome. I think I'll use it again.  The main thing that messes up my tempo is the beginning thrill. When I play it without the thrill it sound better tempo wise I think. But I need to adjust into the thril because I've only just realized how the thrill should be played. For every landing on the a note in the right hand, one note in the left should be used. So the thrill goes right hand: a g a b.flat a. Then left hand notes fall in line with the right hand a's.

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Re: Bach bwv 935 Prelude in D minor page 1
Reply #9 on: January 23, 2014, 11:14:56 PM
Are you sure? I meant what I said about Bach being holy. So I guess you're saying it's okay to improvise, but keep to the time of the bar/note/technical wise.

Quite sure. Bach would have expected you to improvise around, especially as regards ornamentation.
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