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Topic: J. Brahms - Rhapsody in B minor, Op.79, No.1  (Read 4806 times)

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J. Brahms - Rhapsody in B minor, Op.79, No.1
on: January 29, 2014, 04:33:11 AM
Another piece is played by my son. Any comments are welcome !!!

Thanks a lot!

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Re: J. Brahms - Rhapsody in B minor, Op.79, No.1
Reply #1 on: January 29, 2014, 04:42:36 AM
I get nervous watching his right shoulder rise the way it does so frequently.

If he could improve his hand technique a bit, his shoulders would be more relaxed.

This in turn would lead to having even better tone quality than he already has.

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Re: J. Brahms - Rhapsody in B minor, Op.79, No.1
Reply #2 on: January 29, 2014, 04:57:15 AM
You are right. His foundation and technique are not good enough. One and half years before, he just played for fun.

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Re: J. Brahms - Rhapsody in B minor, Op.79, No.1
Reply #3 on: January 29, 2014, 05:21:27 AM
Don't worry, he has really good performance skill already!

Technique takes time to develop. How old is he?

How is his sight-reading? 

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Re: J. Brahms - Rhapsody in B minor, Op.79, No.1
Reply #4 on: January 29, 2014, 06:52:16 AM
Wow!  13 years old and playing like a champion already! I'm jealous actually, I don't think I could play like this.  I tried no1 and gave up. Brahms is difficult. 
It is strange to see such a young person play this way. Alot of young kids have amazing technique but it seems like he understands this piece. Is that possible though? Can a 13 understand this? The way he plays it is like he does, but a 13 year old with a Steinway couldn't have suffered enough in life to play a piece like this.  Regardless, he does, and it's convincing so bravo!!!


That B has a killer base! Needs to be tuned though.

I cant judge technique because I'm self taught so listen to awesome_o but I can be critical with music.

 
26 seconds: it's not mysterious enough. If that means anything to you. I can't explain. Like more articulate and more pedal.

The section at 52 seconds is too slow. I understand the desire to play this extra ordinary beautiful section slow, but the notes Brahms composed are enough to do the trick. Don't break the rhythm of the price. It almost sounds like a different piece there.. I'm sorry it's just too slow. Too much rubato. Trust Brahms, the notes do the job there :)

Anyway, that's just my opinion so don't listen to me unless someone with actual education confirms like awesome_o...

Don't want to end on a bad note. Love your son's playing!!!

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Re: J. Brahms - Rhapsody in B minor, Op.79, No.1
Reply #5 on: February 03, 2014, 06:53:54 PM
Don't worry, he has really good performance skill already!

Technique takes time to develop. How old is he?

How is his sight-reading? 

When he was learning this piece he was 13.
Sight-reading is his best.
Thank you awesome.

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Re: J. Brahms - Rhapsody in B minor, Op.79, No.1
Reply #6 on: February 03, 2014, 07:37:15 PM
Wow!  13 years old and playing like a champion already! I'm jealous actually, I don't think I could play like this.  I tried no1 and gave up. Brahms is difficult. 
It is strange to see such a young person play this way. Alot of young kids have amazing technique but it seems like he understands this piece. Is that possible though? Can a 13 understand this? The way he plays it is like he does, but a 13 year old with a Steinway couldn't have suffered enough in life to play a piece like this.  Regardless, he does, and it's convincing so bravo!!!


That B has a killer base! Needs to be tuned though.

I cant judge technique because I'm self taught so listen to awesome_o but I can be critical with music.

 
26 seconds: it's not mysterious enough. If that means anything to you. I can't explain. Like more articulate and more pedal.

The section at 52 seconds is too slow. I understand the desire to play this extra ordinary beautiful section slow, but the notes Brahms composed are enough to do the trick. Don't break the rhythm of the price. It almost sounds like a different piece there.. I'm sorry it's just too slow. Too much rubato. Trust Brahms, the notes do the job there :)

Anyway, that's just my opinion so don't listen to me unless someone with actual education confirms like awesome_o...

Don't want to end on a bad note. Love your son's playing!!!



How nice you are Noam! your thought is precious and count.
When I told my son what you said, he said you made decent sense. And he said he will play different now with this piece, the one you are listening was recorded in August  last year. actually,  every time he plays the same piece, he has a little different interpretation and it turns better and better, just like the Ravel piece I posted here. His teacher was shocked by his this change every time,  he doesn't follow all the instruction from his own teacher.  When the teacher sat beside me and told me he's changed somewhere with the piece he was performing at the final competition stage, I was shocked and asked : is it better or worse? The teacher said "better" and was worried if he could go through with these better change without preparation. But he did make it!!!

You are right, usually the kids have solid technique.  but my son is opposite, he has a much higher level understanding the music than other kids, he is more mature. The teacher can teach you the technique but can't tell you how to be emotional where it needs.
 
I don't know if I am saying is correctly expressed, anyway, I tried my best, without any music education.
Thank you for your attention.
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