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Offline cabbynum

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Pronouncing repertoire
on: February 07, 2014, 04:30:36 PM
Why can some people just not do this? Even after its been explained multiple times.
I understand mispronouncing it the first few times, but after its been explained multiple times? Whats the deal with that?
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Offline perprocrastinate

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Re: Pronouncing repertoire
Reply #1 on: February 08, 2014, 01:12:31 AM
I find that people screw up the French pronunciations the most/worst. I die a little inside whenever somebody pronounces the 'pin' in Chopin as 'pan'.

Why can some people just not do this? Even after its been explained multiple times.
I understand mispronouncing it the first few times, but after its been explained multiple times? Whats the deal with that?

I suppose they can't find the time or effort to attempt an accurate pronunciation. It took me a long time to get 'Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji' right in my head. Placing the accents (or whatever they're called in linguistics) in the right spots is tricky.

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Re: Pronouncing repertoire
Reply #2 on: February 08, 2014, 05:03:10 AM
I find that people screw up the French pronunciations the most/worst. I die a little inside whenever somebody pronounces the 'pin' in Chopin as 'pan'.

EXCUSE ME??? That is how you pronounce it...

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Re: Pronouncing repertoire
Reply #3 on: February 08, 2014, 05:41:39 AM
LOL. Forgive me for my moment of idiocy.

However in my defense, I did say French pronunciation, not Polish. Then again, both are valid pronunciations.

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Re: Pronouncing repertoire
Reply #4 on: February 08, 2014, 06:52:06 AM
LOL. Forgive me for my moment of idiocy.

Not to worry... I remember myself having fun trying to pronounce the composer 'Schytte'... I can assure you that much laughter followed my attempts.

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Re: Pronouncing repertoire
Reply #5 on: February 08, 2014, 09:01:41 PM
One does need to remember that language facility is quite variable in people.  Also -- perhaps more to the point -- once one has gotten beyond five or six years old, some sounds are just simply not available to the individual.  Very few people from the anglo-saxon/germanic language tradtion, for instance, can pronounce French (or other Romance languages)(never mind the Slavic languages) properly -- and, I might add, vice versa.  Oriental languages are full of sounds which no westerner can do properly -- and again, vice versa.  And so on.

There are a lucky few who can manage to cross language group boundaries.  If you are one, be happy -- but don't sneer at the vast majority of those who can't.
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Re: Pronouncing repertoire
Reply #6 on: February 08, 2014, 11:55:32 PM
This is possibly the most snitty and pointlessly petty post ever, no mean feat for this forum...

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Re: Pronouncing repertoire
Reply #7 on: February 09, 2014, 02:19:04 AM
Why can some people just not do this? Even after its been explained multiple times.
I understand mispronouncing it the first few times, but after its been explained multiple times? Whats the deal with that?

Like a poster above me said, some sounds are just not available to some people. I can't pronounce French to save my life. Let alone Finnish or Russian. And even though my English is pretty good Ai vill allveis have a bitt off an aksent ven ai speek it.

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Re: Pronouncing repertoire
Reply #8 on: February 09, 2014, 02:39:41 AM
This is possibly the most snitty and pointlessly petty post ever, no mean feat for this forum...

I don't think it's the most. But it's probably pretty high... It's just one of my pet peeves. A really good friend of mine calls Liszt Linzt and Chopin with the ch as chop. It's very annoying to me. I won't say too many more. But it's just a bit annoying and I was wondering if any others were annoyed by this.

He says Chaconne as Chason-a
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Offline j_menz

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Re: Pronouncing repertoire
Reply #9 on: February 09, 2014, 10:09:57 PM
I take the view that they should be grateful that anyone is speaking of them at all, and that any mispronunciations are quite secondary.

The only exception to that is hypercorrect pronunciations.
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