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Offline stillnimble

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Piano Concertos
on: February 20, 2014, 01:11:56 PM
Yesterday I heard a concerto by Frederich Kalkbremmer; it was the No.2 in E minor.
It was on Classic FM and the pianist was Howard Shelley (I think).
It is the first time I had ever heard of Frederich Kalhbremmer, let alone heard the concerto but it certainly made me sit up and listen. I now want to hear his other concertos, I think there are four.

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Re: Piano Concertos
Reply #1 on: February 20, 2014, 05:02:33 PM
He is a great obscure composer (by the way, it's spelled Kalkbrenner, not Kalkbremmer). You should also listen to his variations on a Mazurka by Chopin.

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Re: Piano Concertos
Reply #2 on: February 20, 2014, 05:51:36 PM
He is a great obscure composer (by the way, it's spelled Kalkbrenner, not Kalkbremmer). You should also listen to his variations on a Mazurka by Chopin.
Great yes. Obscure hardly.
I have difficulty classifying music that has modern recordings on existing labels and is broadcast as obscure. 

Btw I'm listening to his piano sonatas right now coincidentally and they are really cool. Those are worth exploring as well.

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Re: Piano Concertos
Reply #3 on: February 20, 2014, 07:25:55 PM
There are 4 concertos for solo piano, 1 concerto for two pianos and at least 15 other works for piano & orchestra.

Probably the last Kalkbrenner work to drop out of the regular repertoire is his Effusio Musica Op.68. It has only been recorded once and surely must be due for a revival.

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Re: Piano Concertos
Reply #4 on: February 20, 2014, 07:36:02 PM
Great yes. Obscure hardly.
I have difficulty classifying music that has modern recordings on existing labels and is broadcast as obscure. 

Btw I'm listening to his piano sonatas right now coincidentally and they are really cool. Those are worth exploring as well.

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Alee Marie :-*

Well, nobody I have ever asked has even heard his name before. Not even several piano teachers and judges for a few competitions. And by the way, some of these judges are from Juilliard. Plus, I don't ever recall seeing a single person play his works for a piano competition. I consider that obscure.

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Reply #5 on: February 20, 2014, 08:06:28 PM
I guess he is obscure if you have not heard of him and not if you have. A couple of years ago I dined with a group of about 15 pianists/musicologists and every one of them had heard of Kalkbrenner and about 4 had played his works. He is an important figure at the dawn of the romantic age and it has taken a long time for him to be recognised as such and not just the person who Chopin turned down as a teacher.

These Julliard judges perhaps could do with expanding their listening habits.

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Re: Piano Concertos
Reply #6 on: February 23, 2014, 11:35:27 AM
Well, nobody I have ever asked has even heard his name before. Not even several piano teachers and judges for a few competitions. And by the way, some of these judges are from Juilliard. Plus, I don't ever recall seeing a single person play his works for a piano competition. I consider that obscure.

Sadly, many musicians are not that interested in music, and even more don't know that much about it.
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Re: Piano Concertos
Reply #7 on: February 23, 2014, 12:10:18 PM
You would be surprised how limited the knowledge of some (not by any means all) professional musicians is the moment they step aside from the major composers.


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