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Offline citizen_k

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Yamaha Clavinova P-100 sustain
on: March 17, 2014, 09:48:40 PM
Hi,
Is anybody here having Yamaha Clavinova PF P-100 Electric Piano?

Here's my question:
I just discovered that the sustain pedal doesn't affect the highest 1.5 octave.
Actually, from the G5 key and above, the notes sustain the same with or without holding the pedal.
Is that normal??
B.S.U.R!

Offline iansinclair

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova P-100 sustain
Reply #1 on: March 18, 2014, 02:10:27 PM
I wouldn't know about digital pianos -- but if you were to go and look at an acoustic grand, you would find that the top octave and a fifth or so -- depends a little on the model -- doesn't have dampers either.
Ian

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova P-100 sustain
Reply #2 on: March 18, 2014, 08:06:23 PM
Any digital even remotely trying to mimic an acoustic will have this quality. It is normal.

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova P-100 sustain
Reply #3 on: March 18, 2014, 11:35:14 PM
Thank you guys,  your answers make sense.
Actually I thought so, I just wanted it confirmed by others.

thx

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Offline hfmadopter

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova P-100 sustain
Reply #4 on: March 19, 2014, 08:48:12 AM
My Kawai MP6 has no pedal sustain in the last octave. That said, the notes still sing slightly better in that octave than on my acoustic grand piano, at least so for the last three notes which do not hold for very long on my real grand .

I should add that on a real acoustic grand those strings in that last octave are very short and dampening is not really an issue up there. There may be some longest of long grand pianos that have those note dampened, I'm not sure but physically fitting them in on a smaller grand would be a chore and a chore with no fruit.
Depressing the pedal on an out of tune acoustic piano and playing does not result in tonal color control or add interest, it's called obnoxious.

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova P-100 sustain
Reply #5 on: March 23, 2014, 09:05:05 AM
Just as a point of curiosity on this - although acoustic pianos lack dampers in the top octave or so, the undamped notes still have a different resonance when the sustaining pedal is down because of sympathetic resonance from lower strings. I wonder if digital piano software recognises this subtle difference? I don't have a digital piano, I'm just mildly curious.......

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova P-100 sustain
Reply #6 on: March 23, 2014, 10:25:01 AM
Just as a point of curiosity on this - although acoustic pianos lack dampers in the top octave or so, the undamped notes still have a different resonance when the sustaining pedal is down because of sympathetic resonance from lower strings. I wonder if digital piano software recognises this subtle difference? I don't have a digital piano, I'm just mildly curious.......
Not all, but more expensive instruments create those sounds so actually digital instruments now can almost perfectly create organic piano sounds.

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova P-100 sustain
Reply #7 on: March 23, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
Not all, but more expensive instruments create those sounds so actually digital instruments now can almost perfectly create organic piano sounds.

I think the word perfectly is a bit of a stretch but they are really way better than they ever were. Pretty darned convincing .
Depressing the pedal on an out of tune acoustic piano and playing does not result in tonal color control or add interest, it's called obnoxious.

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova P-100 sustain
Reply #8 on: March 23, 2014, 06:41:36 PM
Are they better than they were years ago? Just a bit, but not much.
Are they excellent? No.
Are they pretty good? No.
Are they merely okay. Yes.

Don't expect much from a digital piano. Any decent acoustic blows it away.

Get a digital for the right reasons, such as price, portability, silent practice, etc.  Don't buy one to compete with an acoustic.
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