Chopin improv

[cabbynum]

Hey guys I'd like some serious feedback on this improv on Chopins music and the influences Bach had on him. Thanks for listening!

[j_menz]

You need to take longer showers. 

[quantum]

There is a nod to early Scriabin here. 

You may want to try working with a theme, then develop that theme using all those arpeggios and octaves in a Chopinesque style.  Chopin loved vocal music, so amidst all his virtuosity there was nearly always a singable tune. 

I liked how you opened the piece.  It would be interesting to hear how you could continue develop those ideas. 

[cabbynum]

There is a nod to early Scriabin here. 

You may want to try working with a theme, then develop that theme using all those arpeggios and octaves in a Chopinesque style.  Chopin loved vocal music, so amidst all his virtuosity there was nearly always a singable tune. 

I liked how you opened the piece.  It would be interesting to hear how you could continue develop those ideas. 

I find this hilarious because this was a joke posting. This is defenitely more characteristic of more atonal and modern composers.

Go read through the Truth or dare. Thread

[j_menz]

This is defenitely more characteristic of more atonal

Hate to disappoint you, but it seemed to me solidly tonal.

[quantum]

I find this hilarious because this was a joke posting. This is defenitely more characteristic of more atonal and modern composers.

Go read through the Truth or dare. Thread

  

Of course, what would PS be without completely random tangents rendered completely serious for the sake of seriously taking them unseriously. 

[cabbynum]

Hate to disappoint you, but it seemed to me solidly tonal.

Sorry, it may be. Honestly I haven't even really listened to it. When I played it I just kinda flub my hands down and went to town. So I didn't really think of a tonal center. I just through in a big I V I at the end in C Major for fun. I guess technically the whole thing is in C major just takes a while to get back "home"

[cabbynum]

 

Of course, what would PS be without completely random tangents rendered completely serious for the sake of seriously taking them unseriously. 

Sorry! I guess I could rename it and have it be taken seriously... If it makes you feel any better I also did 50... More like 48 push-ups and then the intro to Scarbo.

[j_menz]

Sorry, it may be. Honestly I haven't even really listened to it. When I played it I just kinda flub my hands down and went to town. So I didn't really think of a tonal center. I just through in a big I V I at the end in C Major for fun. I guess technically the whole thing is in C major just takes a while to get back "home"

You should have a listen. You might find it interesting how it came out.

I didn't mean that it was "in a key", just that it was at all times tonally centred. That centre moved, sometimes at random, but the notes stayed tonally oriented towards that centre.

Just goes to show, old habits die hard.  Indeed, as I understand it, part of the reason for the strictures in Schoenberg's 12 tone serialism was he believed that without them composers would naturally revert to the learned habits of the old tonality.

[cabbynum]

You should have a listen. You might find it interesting how it came out.

I didn't mean that it was "in a key", just that it was at all times tonally centred. That centre moved, sometimes at random, but the notes stayed tonally oriented towards that centre.

Just goes to show, old habits die hard.  Indeed, as I understand it, part of the reason for the strictures in Schoenberg's 12 tone serialism was he believed that without them composers would naturally revert to the learned habits of the old tonality.

I took another listen. It does have a center. It sure does jump around.
I didn't even notice that!
It was actually quite fun to play. No themes in mind no nothing just sat down and jumped right in! That was fun!

[quantum]

Actually I found this pretty funny after reading through the Truth or dare thread. 

What is interesting is that this thread seems to be "devolving" in to a serious discussion on tonality 

[cabbynum]

Actually I found this pretty funny after reading through the Truth or dare thread. 

What is interesting is that this thread seems to be "devolving" in to a serious discussion on tonality 

Okay so i hate to sound stupid. But what exactly is atonal music?

[j_menz]

What is interesting is that this thread seems to be "devolving" in to a serious discussion

It had to happen one day to counterbalance the vast number of threads that do the opposite. 

Okay so i hate to sound stupid. But what exactly is atonal music?

You don't sound stupid at all. It's a difficult question to answer, and rather contested. Quite a lot of people use the "I know it when I hear it" approach, but falter when pressed.

The Wikipedia article is as good an introduction to the issues as any.