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Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
« on: April 03, 2014, 03:45:34 AM »
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Re: Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
«Reply #1 on: April 03, 2014, 02:50:14 PM »
I don't like this book very much, because it focuses too much on "Piano Playing". rather than on understanding music as a universal language of expression.

If you have excellent musical understanding, playing the piano will come quite easily. I find many pianists are too focused on "piano playing" and not focused enough on "music making".

I have read the book, although I'm just not a huge fan overall.

I am glad, however, that you are increasing the depth of your musical understanding from reading it! That can only be a good thing!

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Re: Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
«Reply #2 on: April 03, 2014, 03:23:14 PM »
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Re: Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
«Reply #3 on: April 03, 2014, 03:28:52 PM »
Piano Playing is a pretty important part of playing the piano!


Is it as important as the music-making?

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Re: Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
«Reply #4 on: April 03, 2014, 03:34:44 PM »
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Re: Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
«Reply #5 on: April 03, 2014, 03:37:26 PM »
I don't like this book very much, because it focuses too much on "Piano Playing". rather than on understanding music as a universal language of expression.


How shocking that a book with the title of Piano Playing would be about piano playing.  

However, the unifying factor for Abby was time/ rhythm, and that is about as universal to music in general as you can get.  

That I think is her most underappreciated leap of insight.  Her break with the finger centric schools of pedagogy is what she's remembered for, and that is an important advance, but her theories on time are even more valuable.  

Chang borrowed much from Abby for his book Fundamentals of Piano Practice.

I'd advise not reading it, you're likely to be horrified when you find out the subject is piano practice.
Tim

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Re: Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
«Reply #6 on: April 03, 2014, 03:51:13 PM »


I'd advise not reading it, you're likely to be horrified when you find out the subject is piano practice.

I read it a long time ago ;)

At a certain point, you stop 'practicing', and the time you spend alone at the piano becomes 'rehearsal'.

 

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Re: Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
«Reply #7 on: April 03, 2014, 05:21:38 PM »
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Re: Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
«Reply #8 on: April 03, 2014, 05:33:15 PM »
I can grasp this quite well mentally.  It might be in part true for me already, but at which point it would be entirely true I can't say.  If I had the opportunity for regular, rhythmic practice ... a few weeks?  A few months?  A year?  A decade?  A lifetime?  

I would say it depends on your overall level of fluency with the keyboard.

Once you can do something like improvise your national anthem comfortably with both hands in any key signature, you have probably discovered how to run your own rehearsal quite efficiently.

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Re: Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
«Reply #9 on: April 03, 2014, 05:40:55 PM »
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Re: Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
«Reply #10 on: April 03, 2014, 05:48:20 PM »
I see that this is a kind of theme for you, and seemingly your particular measuring stick.......  And, right now, I have other ideas that are more pressing to me.


Once you can improvise, you can do anything you like with any theme you choose!  ;)

What theme are you interested in then, if comfort with improvisation doesn't interest you?

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Re: Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
«Reply #11 on: April 03, 2014, 05:50:00 PM »
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Re: Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
«Reply #12 on: April 03, 2014, 06:00:39 PM »
Do your homework.  ;D

I quit formal schooling some time ago ;)

Never liked homework much. Always preferred music!

Do you aspire to compose, Mayla? Or do you already? I'm sorry, I don't know very much about you yet!

What type of musical work interests you? Mostly solo interpretation? Duets? Duos? Chamber ensembles? Conducting? Teaching?


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Re: Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
«Reply #13 on: April 06, 2014, 06:36:25 PM »
This book is interesting, but quite dangerous. It's easy to misunderstand her instructions and build a lot of tense habits as a result, even though the purpose of the book is to free up the playing.

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Re: Abby Whiteside - "On Piano Playing"
«Reply #14 on: April 06, 2014, 11:27:37 PM »
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