Chopin etude op 10 no 4 - help

[jsen]

Hello,
I started this etude 3 months ago; I only can play it at 120 bpm, it's too slow, I think it should be at least 140/150. what do you sugest (exercises, ways of studying) to improve it? I mainly have difficult in the middle section.
thank you

[faulty_damper]

Are you note grouping or playing each note individually?

[johnmar78]

slower the deeper touch the better for fast playing,,,when right time comes you will discover it youself that speed is nothing.

[jsen]

note grouping...

slower the deeper touch the better for fast playing

I didn't unterstand it very well...

[flashyfingers]

I actually find it more fun to play slow to slow-medium speed, make Chopin sound like Bach by using no pedal and play each hand separately.

I tell my young students. Get over the unbearable idea of metronome practice or playing as slow as possible by doing only a few bars at a time. Find a passage that you have trouble with, and work it out just as we discussed. It then becomes very easy to slow down and play evenly with bach-like articulation and organization, at any point in time, after looking at a few tough passages in this way.

after you have played much of the etude even more evenly, at the slowest tempo possible, start with the first few bars and see how fast you are able to play the intro.

Actually, before you even do that, can you mouth the sounds of the etude? such as tadatada tadadada tadadada....In fact, articulating and experimenting with accents vocally will help you possibly perceive the piece more clearly and your practice will be filled with enthusiasm.

I've noticed people that cannot sing or speak a line of music clearly or with proper rhythm will have issues in playing. Always sing the melody while clapping the beat.

before you go sounding crazy, singing each note of the Chopin etude, imagine and sing the first few bars in your head!

See how that goes. Think about the sounds and the rhythm, the articulation and the tempo while you go to sit down at the piano. Then, play the first few bars at the tempo you were thinking, and go as far past that as you can. Note what happens. Let us know if that helped.

I know that phrasing becomes different when you push the tempo. It happens naturally, when your body gets used to the tempo, and your ears are focusing...

[johnmar78]

note grouping...
 I didn't unterstand it very well...

check your PM. Enjoy.