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Offline ajlongspiano

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Summer Stretch Piece?
on: May 20, 2014, 06:17:06 PM
Hi everyone! So over the summer I like to learn a large scale work that challenges me a lot. The last piece I learned was Chopin's 1st Ballade and that took me exactly one month and three weeks to learn but I'm still working on it obviously. I was thinking maybe the Chopin Fantasie in F Minor. It's a wonderful piece and I think it would be a great challenge over the summer. I'm open to all recommendations. I'd prefer something that's fairly long with a lot of technical and musical challenges present. I'm looking forward to seeing your suggestions!

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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #1 on: May 20, 2014, 06:42:26 PM


My suggestions

Alkan op.39 no.4(-7 if you finish 4 quickly)

Alkan op.39 no.11

Alkan op.39 no.12

Bach partita no.6

Brahms sonata F minor

Brahms op.79 complete

Brahms 4 ballades complete

Beethoven 32 variations in C minor

Beethoven op.111 (this is mostly a joke)

Beethoven Diabelli variations (another joke)

Beethoven op.126 Bagatelles complete

Bortkiewicz Eros impromptu (can't remember op number)

Chopin introduction and Rondo (if you pull this off... You're a superhuman)

Chopin op.44

Liszt Hungarian rhapsody no.19

Liszt douze grandes etude no.12 (not transcendental etude)

Liszt sonata b minor

Liszt Dante sonata

Mozart fantasy D minor

Rachmaninov theme on Corelli

Rachmaninov sonata 1




That's all I got for yuh!

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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #2 on: May 20, 2014, 07:28:09 PM

My suggestions

Alkan op.39 no.4(-7 if you finish 4 quickly)

Alkan op.39 no.11

Alkan op.39 no.12

Bach partita no.6

Thanks! Why would op.111 be a joke? haha that's like my favorite beethoven sonata!

Brahms sonata F minor

Brahms op.79 complete

Brahms 4 ballades complete

Beethoven 32 variations in C minor

Beethoven op.111 (this is mostly a joke)

Beethoven Diabelli variations (another joke)

Beethoven op.126 Bagatelles complete

Bortkiewicz Eros impromptu (can't remember op number)

Chopin introduction and Rondo (if you pull this off... You're a superhuman)

Chopin op.44

Liszt Hungarian rhapsody no.19

Liszt douze grandes etude no.12 (not transcendental etude)

Liszt sonata b minor

Liszt Dante sonata

Mozart fantasy D minor

Rachmaninov theme on Corelli

Rachmaninov sonata 1




That's all I got for yuh!

Hope it helps

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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #3 on: May 20, 2014, 07:29:04 PM
Thanks! Why would op.111 be a joke? haha thats like my favorite beethoven sonata!

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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #4 on: May 20, 2014, 07:45:59 PM
Thanks! Why would op.111 be a joke? haha thats like my favorite beethoven sonata!

Because its a bit much for the summer...

Its my favorite too@!
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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #5 on: May 20, 2014, 09:27:06 PM
Hmm...I'm surprised that there wasn't a "joke" next to the Liszt sonata. That is probably the hardest sonata to pull off, after Beethoven Op. 106
I would recommend the 32 C Minor variations. Or you could work on some other Liszt etudes and small scale works in preparation for the Liszt sonatas or Brahms sonata on the list.

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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #6 on: May 20, 2014, 10:20:35 PM
How about something by a composer who hasn't been dead since long before you were born?
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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #7 on: May 20, 2014, 10:51:37 PM
 

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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #8 on: May 20, 2014, 11:38:38 PM
Paul Kletzki Fantasie

Died 1973, didn't compose after 1942, ands this (his only solo piano work?) is from 1924.
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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 12:00:40 AM
How about something by a composer who hasn't been dead since long before you were born?

I always improvise/fool around at least 20mins a day, does that count?

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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #10 on: May 21, 2014, 12:16:51 AM
I always improvise/fool around at least 20mins a day, does that count?

No doubt good for you, but doesn't count towards keeping abreast of trends and developments contemporary music unless you improvise in that style (or styles, more correctly).
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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #11 on: May 21, 2014, 12:26:45 AM
Hmm...I'm surprised that there wasn't a "joke" next to the Liszt sonata. That is probably the hardest sonata to pull off, after Beethoven Op. 106
I would recommend the 32 C Minor variations. Or you could work on some other Liszt etudes and small scale works in preparation for the Liszt sonatas or Brahms sonata on the list.


Liszt sonata isn't as impossible or as hard to pull off as the ones I put joke next too. It's still hard though so please no one get mad at me !
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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #12 on: May 21, 2014, 12:48:15 AM
Died 1973, didn't compose after 1942, ands this (his only solo piano work?) is from 1924.
right didn't consider the dates carefully


Hmm no he had some other piano music ie. the preludes are nice


Does it have to be a classical piece I know a splendid concert transcription just published last year that has some super cool momments

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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #13 on: May 21, 2014, 01:00:10 AM
Hmm no he had some other piano music ie. the preludes are nice

Seems there may be more in a box in Texas.
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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #14 on: May 21, 2014, 01:06:19 AM
Seems there may be more =https://www.dw.de/texas-project-uncovers-works-by-composers-persecuted-by-the-nazis/a-14918807-1in a box in Texas.

That's right! I forgot about what article  thanks for reminding me ;D

Oh to op, this is a cool piece lots of modern classical elements wrapped in a delicious fun transcription this the only respectable live video I know off. Tough piece esp that atonal middle section that's sound like a 12 tone fugue .  She's a good classical musician too, ie her piazzola colab work is really good

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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #15 on: May 21, 2014, 02:39:31 AM
That's right! I forgot about what article  thanks for reminding me ;D

Oh to op, this is a cool piece lots of modern classical elements wrapped in a delicious fun transcription this the only respectable live video I know off. Tough piece esp that atonal middle section that's sound like a 12 tone fugue .  She's a good classical musician too, ie her piazzola colab work is really good





THis is you?!?!?!

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I need to read fully before commenting...
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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #16 on: May 21, 2014, 02:52:36 AM
atonal middle section that's sound like a 12 tone fugue

Which reminds me.. (and probably  breaks my own suggested rule)...









Hindemith's conception of twelve tone is somewhat different to that of Schoenberg and, IMO, much more melodically friendly.
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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #17 on: May 21, 2014, 10:31:48 AM


THis is you?!?!?!

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I need to read fully before commenting...
hah no worries , I'm flattered you might think i am that easy on the eyes haha  :P. but she does a fairly decent job on this .  I feel she pushes the tempo needlessly at times, it sounds better with a bit more restraint in spots ( at least I like to do that, but I play other sections faster than what she decided but as performers we are allowed to choose no? )

Truth be told it's a neat piece I have played w parts of it but I m a little burned out modern repertoire right now ( my last major 20th century piece chewed me up and poo pooed me out  so I couldn't be bothered to finish the thing in right now, i have a terribly short attention span for this sound right now, will probably record something else soon instead ;)

I am on a bit of a  classical binge right now though in terms of larger/longer pieces.

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Re: Summer Stretch Piece?
Reply #18 on: May 21, 2014, 10:46:31 AM
Which reminds me.. (and probably  breaks my own suggested rule)...









Hindemith's conception of twelve tone is somewhat different to that of Schoenberg and, IMO, much more melodically friendly.

Cool!
As for serialism and true atonalism I find that the tighter the form constraints and perhaps stronger rhythmic motifs the less "unlistenable " music gets.

This is a cool one for op to consider as it is a major work and has tons of technical and musical challenges as well
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