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Bach - Fugue in E minor - Tempo?
on: June 25, 2014, 02:37:16 PM
Hey everyone,

I've recently learned Bach's Prelude and Fugue in E minor, and I'm going to play it at a university audition. Most pianists I hear on recordings play the fugue at a very fast speed. However, my piano teacher told me it was a solemn piece about a crucifixion, and I was never to play it fast. For the audition, what do you suggest?

Thanks.
Currently Playing:

Bach - Prelude and Fugue in E minor
Beethoven - Sonata #1 in F minor
Mozart - Sonata #17 in Bb Major
Brahms - Intermezzo in A major

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Re: Bach - Fugue in E minor - Tempo?
Reply #1 on: June 25, 2014, 10:26:31 PM
Which one?
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Re: Bach - Fugue in E minor - Tempo?
Reply #2 on: June 26, 2014, 03:50:01 AM
Sorry for not specifying - WTC book 1.
Currently Playing:

Bach - Prelude and Fugue in E minor
Beethoven - Sonata #1 in F minor
Mozart - Sonata #17 in Bb Major
Brahms - Intermezzo in A major

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Re: Bach - Fugue in E minor - Tempo?
Reply #3 on: June 26, 2014, 04:12:05 AM
Gulda:



Richter:



Gould (Fugue only):



Fischer:



Kempff (W):



That seems to me to cover the range. 

I think your teacher has his or her pieces mixed up. Apart from anything else, Bach would never use a 2 voice fugue for something so solemn.

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Re: Bach - Fugue in E minor - Tempo?
Reply #4 on: June 26, 2014, 04:53:50 AM
However, my piano teacher told me it was a solemn piece about a crucifixion,
I think your teacher is perhaps referring to Bach's alleged belief that E minor is the key for the crucifixion because the single sharp, called Kreuz in German, stands for the Cross.

Personally, I don't believe Bach intended for this P&F to represent the Crucifixion.

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Re: Bach - Fugue in E minor - Tempo?
Reply #5 on: June 26, 2014, 07:52:24 PM
As a matter of reference, here is the Crucifixus from the Mass in B minor.

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Re: Bach - Fugue in E minor - Tempo?
Reply #6 on: June 26, 2014, 08:43:34 PM
Wasn't the crucifixion fugue the five-voice one in C# minor?

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Re: Bach - Fugue in E minor - Tempo?
Reply #7 on: June 26, 2014, 11:24:25 PM
As a matter of reference, here is the Crucifixus from the Mass in B minor.


Thanks for that - very nice. The Crucifixus part is actually written in E minor. Perhaps that is where the story about Bach's key association came from.

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Re: Bach - Fugue in E minor - Tempo?
Reply #8 on: June 26, 2014, 11:30:13 PM
Wasn't the crucifixion fugue the five-voice one in C# minor?
Might be true but never came across that one. A lot of crosses to bear.

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Re: Bach - Fugue in E minor - Tempo?
Reply #9 on: June 26, 2014, 11:37:38 PM
Might be true but never came across that one. A lot of crosses to bear.


Some people suggest that one. Others suggest the B minor one.  Methinks if you look for symbolism you will find what you look for.
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