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Topic: Perfect pitch + texture phenomena? Anyone else have this?  (Read 1042 times)

Offline Bob

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I really wish I didn't accidentally hit the back key just now, just when I was about ready to post this.  I'm saving now and I'll add more bit by bit.   Dang...


As I was originally saying...

Sounds like a 'duh, course' question when I write it out now....

I listen to a piece of music.  Over and over.  For months.  Might fall asleep to it.  I would be hearing it without paying attention to it for some of that for sure.

Then, completely out of the blue, I hear something and I know it's x-spot in a piece.  I haven't checked pitches, but I just know the pitch is the same.

The catch is texture.  The voicing will be similar or the texture/instrumentation.  Ex. -- If it's strings, something with that kind of soft sound will be in both my long-listening piece and this random snippet/moment event.

The pitch could be isolated, but I wouldn't notice or hear it the same way.  It has to have that sonic texture with it too.


The duh part -- Of course.  It's the same pitch, same sonic texture/same voicing, etc.  I'm hearing the exact same thing I hear before.  It just happens to be a random event that matches what I heard in that piece, the piece I listened to over and over and over.


But I'm thinking it's related to perfect pitch still to some extent.  If it was a different pitch, I wouldn't notice it.  If I know the piece and know the pitch, then I could ID it.  Otherwise, it's like "x-spot in y-piece suddenly pops into my consciousness."  It's like matching pitch/texture to pieces I've heard before.


Anyone else have that happen?
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Re: Perfect pitch + texture phenomena? Anyone else have this?
Reply #1 on: July 16, 2014, 05:55:04 AM
Are you talking like something random you heard in everyday life?  Like a sound of a car, or a horn, or something?  Or do you mean there is a pitch in a piece that you know is the same pitch from a different example, with similar context?
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Re: Perfect pitch + texture phenomena? Anyone else have this?
Reply #2 on: July 16, 2014, 11:42:07 AM
It would be another piece of music.

Key wouldn't matter.  It's chord.  Same melodic pitch, same chord, similar instrumental texture and voicing.

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Re: Perfect pitch + texture phenomena? Anyone else have this?
Reply #3 on: July 16, 2014, 05:22:20 PM
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I think the issue is the identifiably versus generality of specific cell fragments of music.  Certain cells can be said to be the building building blocks of music - scales, arpeggios, chord sequences, etc.  However, where is the line drawn between a grammatical element, and a structured element that can be said to have its own unique identifier.  
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