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Offline graceful

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Why level 7?
on: July 17, 2014, 02:20:51 PM
https://www.pianostreet.com/chopin-sheet-music/waltzes/waltz-op-64-1-d-flat-major.htm

Chopin Op. 64 No 1 "Le Petit Chien"

I think this piece is chiefly underrated in terms of difficulty leveling. I learned Chopin's revolutionary a month back and then this. To be honest this song was harder to learn... and that piece is 8+ so i'm suggesting that it should be at least an 8 or 8+.

Even though it's eighth notes it's really fast, making them sort of like 16th notes in real time.

AND added with the left hand chords that are hard to change in literally less than a second. This song compared to Raindrops is the same level? Are you kidding me? Just listen to the actual song.



Some versions play it much faster than THAT.  :o

It is definitely not level 7 please change!! I know I sound kind of agitated for no reason but this is sort of agitating as it deserves its fair level. I don't know if the level system is based on another but seriously this song deserves 8 or 8+...

I guess if you're playing this FASTER than what it normally suggests then it would be 8+ because it seriously is. Thanks. What do you guys think?

EDIT: The version I have on CD is way faster than normal speed... maybe that's not the real speed and this is actually level 7. If it is then my bad.

Offline mjames

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Re: Why level 7?
Reply #1 on: July 17, 2014, 02:48:29 PM
You played the op10 no. 12 etude and struggled with this Waltz? This waltz was a *** cake walk in the park or soemthing. Can't remember the exact the saying. Granted it took me awhile to get it up to speed, say I got the entire piece in my head in like 1 week, and it took me around 2 and a half weeks to get it to a comfortable vivace. The notes fit perfectl under my fingers, both the chords and the scale runs. The hardest part for me was that 4 quarter notes against 3 quarter notes, i was like "what is this sh*t?" :D

Everyone is different, but this waltz is nowhere near as difficult as you make it out to be lol

Especially when youve played the revolutionary etude. Waltz Op. 42, now that's a pain in the ass.

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Re: Why level 7?
Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 05:12:40 PM
I have to agree with mjames. The piece fits very well under the fingers. The difficulty is not in the notes but really getting up to speed.

I also have to agree with mjames on op. 42. THAT is a difficult waltz, boy oh boy. But so rewarding!

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Re: Why level 7?
Reply #3 on: July 17, 2014, 06:18:26 PM
does how a piece is classified by one entity somehow affect how much one likes or doesn't? I fail to see the problem.

I have however seen the point of view expressed that the little D flat maj waltz is not so difficult as some would say. Hence why pianists and composers have had a hayday with it.

Joseffy does a nice job with it (one would expect no less from a pupil of Moscheles, Tausig, and Liszt...).

Rosenthall does wonders with it too

Offline graceful

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Re: Why level 7?
Reply #4 on: July 17, 2014, 10:30:04 PM
It was really quite the opposite for me. XD

I find this piece difficult because i'm used to playing very fast when I have to and I can't seem to slow down on the first part of the second page. Sixteenth notes are easier for me than abrupt changes in time and speed.



Also check how fast she plays it, she makes it sound much harder.

And the notes do fit well under the fingers but when you're playing fast you have to go splickity in a second to change chords.

Offline j_menz

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Re: Why level 7?
Reply #5 on: July 17, 2014, 11:39:34 PM
I think from time to time we all encounter pieces that we find peculiarly more difficult than conventional understanding would suggest. Likewise, some easier. That's why gradings are never perfect.

What difference does it make anyway?
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