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Offline kaspersson

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Learning two full Beethoven sonatas
on: August 01, 2014, 05:40:53 PM
Hello,
I'm a 16 years old "pianist" or a piano student from Finland, and this is going to be my first post on this forum so don't be mad if my english isn't that good :)

I've been thinking to learn two full Beethoven sonatas, op.13 (Pathetique) and op.57 (Appassionata)
I already know well the 3rd. Movement of the Appassionata, but I'm not sure how i should proceed.

Should I work on both of the sonatas at the same time, or first Appassionata and after that, Pathetique? How long would it take to learn both of these? I don't have any time limit, but I'm quite fast to learn pieces. I learned and memorised Chopin's Étude op.10 no.4 (six pages) in three days.

I'm also working on Mozart's Piano concerto no.20 K466 in D-Minor, which is just absolutely amazing piece of art!

Have a nice day!
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Offline bronnestam

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Re: Learning two full Beethoven sonatas
Reply #1 on: August 01, 2014, 06:59:24 PM
I know someone who is really good at this and he says that it is more beneficial to study two Beethoven sonatas at a time than doing one after the other, as they are "helping each other out". However, I am not sure whether this also goes for the Appassionata as it is considered to be very difficult and a lot of work. Perhaps it is not the optimal choice right now - how many other Beethoven sonatas have you studied before?

I suppose you could work with them in parallel but take your time and do not rush things just for the sake of it - I don't care how fast you can memorize and learn, your mind still needs a lot of time to digest and process the music.

Offline symphonicdance

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Re: Learning two full Beethoven sonatas
Reply #2 on: August 02, 2014, 04:24:57 PM
It will definitely be beneficial for you to study the life of Beethoven and how his music evolved, if you haven't.

Offline pianoman8

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Re: Learning two full Beethoven sonatas
Reply #3 on: August 03, 2014, 02:17:50 AM
You got op 10 no 4 up to speed in 6 days, or just have it memorized at a slow speed?

Offline kaspersson

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Re: Learning two full Beethoven sonatas
Reply #4 on: August 03, 2014, 08:52:43 AM
You got op 10 no 4 up to speed in 6 days, or just have it memorized at a slow speed?
I memorised the whole piece at a slow speed in two or three days, and now 4 days later I can almost play it up to speed.
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Offline kaspersson

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Re: Learning two full Beethoven sonatas
Reply #5 on: August 03, 2014, 08:55:50 AM
It will definitely be beneficial for you to study the life of Beethoven and how his music evolved, if you haven't.
Thanks for the tip, but I have already studied Beethoven and his life :)
Of course there might be some things I don't know of, but I know how his life went, and how his music evolved as he became old and deaf.
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Offline bronnestam

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Re: Learning two full Beethoven sonatas
Reply #6 on: August 03, 2014, 10:44:58 AM
If you read Swedish, there is an excellent biography about Beethoven written by Åke Holmquist. 900 pages, even though the last 100 are just references ...  :-\  I would have preferred an e-book version (from obvious reasons!!!) but unfortunately it was not available. The book looks good, though.

Offline kaspersson

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Re: Learning two full Beethoven sonatas
Reply #7 on: August 03, 2014, 11:29:26 AM
If you read Swedish, there is an excellent biography about Beethoven written by Åke Holmquist. 900 pages, even though the last 100 are just references ...  :-\  I would have preferred an e-book version (from obvious reasons!!!) but unfortunately it was not available. The book looks good, though.
Sounds good! I'll definitely check that out! (even though I'm not so good at Swedish :) )
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