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Offline lostinidlewonder

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What insight into this piece do u have?????
on: December 01, 2004, 05:31:17 AM
BEETHOVEN: Piano Sonata No. 26, "Les Adieux," in E flat major, Op. 81a

Is there anything interesting you guys could say about it? Like, who was it for? Why? What is it about, what ideas is Beethoven trying to explore? Every time i do concerts i like to have something to say about each piece and i'm finding it hard getting info about this piece. Any help would be good :) I know a lot of you know a lot!!!
I read that Dussek's Eb Grande Sonate, Op.44 Les adieux 1800 might have influenced Beethoven's Op.81a Les adieux of 1810, but i wonder if there's anything else interesting/important to say?

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Re: What insight into this piece do u have?????
Reply #1 on: December 01, 2004, 06:42:55 AM
Here, read this from the BBC:

"While a number of Beethoven's piano sonatas have titles (authentic or otherwise), Op. 81a is the only one to have a concrete extra-musical inspiration: the flight from Vienna of his patron the Archduke Rudolph (along with the entire nobility and their entourages) in anticipation of the French invasion of the city. In the light of the political situation, Beethoven was understandably indignant when his publisher, with an eye on the international market, insisted on giving it the French title, Les adieux , rather than his own German Lebewohl . In his next sonata ( Op. 90 ) he would reject Italian tempo markings as being Napoleonic, and later even replace pianoforte with Hammerklavier.

Beethoven began the first movement of his E flat major Sonata in May 1809, just after the Archduke had left and a matter of days before Vienna was besieged by Napoleon's forces. During the siege he sheltered in a cellar with a pillow over his head to protect his already diminishing hearing. The other two movements were written in January 1810, following the Archduke's return. The published dedication reads: "On the departure of his Imperial Highness, for the Archduke Rudolph in admiration" - though his private dedication in the sketches refers to the Sonata as being "written from the heart".

The first movement, 'The Farewell', is dominated by a short motto of three descending notes, over which in the first bar Beethoven writes the three syllables Le-be-wohl. This motif furnished the material for both the first and second subject groups of the main Allegro, and while it adds an obviously programmatic element to the music it is, as he explained of the Pastoral Symphony, "not painting, but the expression of feeling". This can in fact be seen as the principle behind the whole Sonata.

The second movement, 'The Absence', expresses moods of both loss and consolation with its two contrasting themes, leading straight into the joyful 'Reunion' of the finale. This movement is in sonata form and contrasts a dynamic first subject and a more relaxed second subject with a distinctive bridge passage that alternates four-bar phrases of G flat major and F major, first in simple forte arpeggios and then in a more decorated piano form. Finally, a poco andante version of the first subject leads into an exhilarating coda."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/classical/pizarro/ram/sonata26.ram
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Re: What insight into this piece do u have?????
Reply #2 on: December 01, 2004, 10:59:20 AM
After Les Adieux was published, Beethoven wrote to the publisher complaining NOT to publish the title in French as Les Adieux conveys a different meaning than the German, Das Lebowohl, which he explicitly expressed be the printed title.

He said that Les Adieux was far too general a farewell to the masses.  Das Lebowohl was a far more personal farewell of which he intended.

I suppose an apt comparison in English would be Goodbye and Farewell, whereas Adieux would mean Goodbye and Lebowohl would mean Farewell.

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Re: What insight into this piece do u have?????
Reply #3 on: December 02, 2004, 01:58:11 AM
Great info. Thanks a million guys.
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