Not necessarily, but I've been thinking that some of the issues we face might be different than those faced by someone who has continued their studies without interruption.I, for one, find myself really beating myself up when it takes me a horribly long time to "get" something.
I, for one, find myself really beating myself up when it takes me a horribly long time to "get" something.
/raises handmy story:I took lessons for a many years when I was a kid, but I stopped them 6-7 years ago.And since then I would tap about on the piano whenever I was bored, I grew older, matured, learned to love piano, and realized that I was an embarrassment of a student (I rarely practiced, was rarely motivated to play out of passion for the instrument)But the problem is, I haven't fully learned many new pieces since my lessons ended, and I certainly have not progressed on my own. I'm still that passably ok middling rate piano amateur ("you're too stiff," says my best friend, who did scherzos and fantasie impromptu towards the end of our lesson-taking days. it was the nice way of saying, "your technique sucks").I finally feel ready to learn from a teacher, but life's really busy right now and maybe from here on out.
I'm an adult "Rebounder", someone who took lessons as a child, stopped for decades and now is taking lessons again. Just wondering how many other Rebounders are here.
I learned on my first round with piano that all that busy stuff in life needed to be put in order, how much is "really all that important" and what is it that I "really have to do" ? And so I made room for my piano. I took seriously piano as a young adult, very seriously. I took lessons for roughly 11 years with a good teacher, cross repertoire but mostly classical. I practiced two to five hours per day depending if there was a recital in the works. Balancing this with raising a family. ...Piano was never a chore for me but a desire, a driving desire. And it's a desire of music, not complication in articulation of the keyboard but making music.
Are those of us who aren't "rebounders" just plain bounders?
Only just seen this. Typically droll, to be sure, but maybe the "rebounders" here are those who take up piano when on the rebound - such as people who might eventually get over their vociferous declarations in forum posts of alleged love for a certain Ukrainian pianist in her mid-40s, for example...Bedst,Alisitstair (there's a clue in there somewhere)
"On the rebound" would be people who had recently broken up with the viola, or oboe, or bagpipes (or banjo, though that seems improbable).
Is the clue to the brand of scotch you're on, or the number?
(or banjo, though that seems improbable).
I've had two organ lessons, concentrating mainly on playing posture (very different) and sounds of the pipe organ (so mysterious). The legato style of the organ is no difficulty; much of my piano repretoire doesn't use a sustain pedal.
Ah - so nothing to do with a late Xenakis work (not for piano), then?...
No. Only Iannis could make a percussion solo so soporific, and the only "rebound" likely (the title notwithstanding) is that of my head from the pillow.
It's easy enough, after two lessons, to play organ legato-style like a pianist. But you mostly don't play legato on an organ, at least not in Baroque music - which may be your field as you say you don't use the sustain pedal much. Playing legato on an organ makes everything sound soggy, depending on the attack and decay of the organ pipes and the acoustic of the venue, usually a church. Also if you leave the previous key down for even a fraction too long, or even just long enough, you may create a very nasty dissonant. This is not the case on a piano, where it is even a way to play legatissimo imitating a string instrument. It is very important to learn to play detached, and always leave some air between all the notes. It feels really strange at first coming from the piano, but it grows on you.When I started organ lessons the first thing my teacher said was "you play like a pianist". This was not a compliment... But very justified. Pianists typically think they can easily learn organ. This is not so, at least if you want to do it properly. There's an awful lot to learn, and just as many things to un-learn.
It's easy enough, after two lessons, to play organ legato-style like a pianist. But you mostly don't play legato on an organ, at least not in Baroque music - which may be your field as you say you don't use the sustain pedal much. Playing legato on an organ makes everything sound soggy, depending on the attack and decay of the organ pipes and the acoustic of the venue, usually a church. Also if you leave the previous key down for even a fraction too long, or even just long enough, you may create a very nasty dissonant. This is not the case on a piano, where it is even a way to play legatissimo imitating a string instrument. It is very important to learn to play detached, and always leave some air between all the notes. It feels really strange at first coming from the piano, but it grows on you.
I probably appreciate it more this way..
Probably I am. I had a good teacher between 10 and 16, but barely touched a piano between the ages of about 17 and 25, and even after that it was a while before I sought proper advice. I rather regret not having done things conventionally and gone to music college like so many musicians I know. On the other hand, I probably appreciate it more this way..
And so do i old chap. If you had done things conventionally you would probably be playing the same old stuff that everyone else is.Thal
what one must do
If you had done things conventionally you would probably be playing the same old stuff that everyone else is.
My apologies to the original poster, but it is precisely like above opinions and experiences that scares parents like me, so that I must ask the quoted folks above or anyone - what one must do for extremely passionate children who would want to stake a living from the piano despite extreme odds? Thanks.
x..x..x... If Ronde had done things conventionally, the chances are he would not be playing fantasias by Thalberg and Pixis, he would be playing Beethoven sonatas and Chopin Etudes like thousands of others and i would have been denied the joy of his playing.Every day i kneel down and give thanks to the Lord that i was not good enough to go to music school. I play what i want, when i want and if anyone does not like it, they can vanish up their own bottom.LuvThal
That's a very difficult question. I think the central issue in Thal's and my posts is that conventional musical education not only shapes your playing, it also defines, for good or for bad, a framework within which you operate. Your son is very talented, but I don't know him other than through his playing. If the piano ever becomes a task and a chore for him, you should be worried: that's the first step to stopping. If it continues to stimulate his intellectual curiosity, then all is good! I'm not putting this very well, but as I said it's not the easiest thing to address. I have absolutely no idea, for example, if the way I've gone about things has truly been right for me. I could easily have ended up at music college (it was certainly discussed at the time) but for various reasons didn't.
Children have odd ideas unconnected to reality, even me, so I wouldn't worry too much. But were I a parent I wouldn't spend $$$$$$ on a child's formal college education in music performance, or basket weaving either.
x..x..x..x..x..x..x.... A passion for music is a child is a much more fulfilling hobby than many other more popular pastimes children take up. Music performance also develops the brain in ways that few other hobbies can.
Topic: How many "rebounders" are here? 