Asian Pianists

[Alde]

Apart from Uchida, Fou T'song, Licad, Lang Lang and Yundi Li, does anybody know of any other prominent asian concert pianists? 

[rachlisztchopin]

why? why does ethnicity matter may i ask?

[bernhard]

Noriko Ogawa
Helen Huang
Hiroko Nakamura
Mei Ting Sun
Frederic Chiu
Jon Kimura Parker
Dang Thai Son
Melvyn Tan
Lucille Chung
Beatrice Long
Riko Fukuda
Yoshiko Kojima
Martha Argerich

I am sure there are many more.

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[thracozaag]

Noriko Ogawa
Helen Huang
Hiroko Nakamura
Mei Ting Sun
Frederic Chiu
Jon Kimura Parker
Dang Thai Son
Melvyn Tan
Lucille Chung
Beatrice Long
Riko Fukuda
Yoshiko Kojima
Martha Argerich

I am sure there are many more.

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

 
  What about halfies?

koji (STSD)

[bernhard]

 
  What about halfies?

koji (STSD)

I was not sure about how you regarded yourself. That's the only reason you are not up there.

[thracozaag]

I was not sure about how you regarded yourself. That's the only reason you are not up there.

  To be honest, I'm not quite sure what I am myself.  There's a couple other halfie pianists out there (Elisabeth "Jeanne" Schumann being one).

koji (STSD)

[xvimbi]

  What about halfies?

koji (STSD)

Well, performers like Jon Kimura Parker can certainly be considered "halfies". But what do we consider Martha Argerich to be? Are you perhaps buying into the Argerich/Uchida urban legend? 

[bernhard]

But what do we consider Martha Argerich to be? Are you perhaps buying into the Argerich/Uchida urban legend? 

Totally 

[tibidi]

My favourites:

Yundi Li and Frederic Chiu.

Frederic Chiu's website:

https://harmoniamundi.com/featured_artist.asp?Artist=41

[rachlisztchopin]

Argerich is South American isn't she? Argentinan i think.

[m]

My favourites:

 and Frederic Chiu.

Definitely not my favorite. Does it mean I am also Lang Lang fan?

[bernhard]

Argerich is South American isn't she? Argentinan i think.

Haven’t you heard? Argerich and Uchida are the same person.

From https://www.esatclear.ie/~shoegirl/2003_10_01_barchive.html

With regard to a former Gramophone lifetime achievement winner, Martha Argerich, I found this bizarre website. The Martha Argerich Conspiracy.
I thought this was remarkably interesting. The writer has a hypothesis that Martha Argerich and Mitsuko Uchida are indeed the one person, Martha "undergoes artistic transformation to perform in the inimitable Uchida style on appropriate occasions." Rather strange. Somehow I'm not convinced. I find Uchida's style far too cold and clear to compare to Martha's wild romantic spirit. He also has an interesting gallery of Martha photos (in case you are not already "Martha-ed out." Good site.

(unfortunately the link within the text above which had a lot of hard evidence has now disappeared. I suspect a cover-up )

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[Alde]

why? why does ethnicity matter may i ask?

In recent years, as you probably already know, there has been a huge surge of asian pianists in the concert scene.  But there is really know asian school of piano playing.  Most asians have wonderful piano technique, but the playing is not very moving.  Most of the musical expression I find is heavily influenced by their teachers.  I wonder if any of them will ever have a huge influence in the history of piano playing.
When you watch the great pianists videos, most are white European males.
What do you think?

[chromatickler]

Definitely not my favorite. Does it mean I am also Lang Lang fan?

O brave soul, thou shall fear the wrath of Tibidi.

[rachlisztchopin]

  But there is really know asian school of piano playing. 

Haha lol....juilliard from what I have heard. Oh boy I hope i get into that school.

[thracozaag]

In recent years, as you probably already know, there has been a huge surge of asian pianists in the concert scene.  But there is really know asian school of piano playing.  Most asians have wonderful piano technique, but the playing is not very moving.  Most of the musical expression I find is heavily influenced by their teachers.  I wonder if any of them will ever have a huge influence in the history of piano playing.
When you watch the great pianists videos, most are white European males.
What do you think?

  I think that's a rather ridiculous assertion you're trying to make (regarding "the playing is not very moving").  Horowitz said the same thing...until he actually HEARD some of them (and coached them).

koji (STSD)

[m]

O brave soul, thou shall fear the wrath of Tibidi.

Ani vay to delit bifo hi siz'zat?

[m]

I wonder if any of them will ever have a huge influence in the history of piano playing.
When you watch the great pianists videos, most are white European males.
What do you think?

I think nothing can be taken out of historical or social context. Personally, I agree that it has nothing to do with ethnicity.

BTW, for some strange, unexplainable, ironic reason, some of greatests females did not get on Great Pianists series. On the other hand, it doesn't reduce their influence and importance in piano performance history.   

[chromatickler]

Ani vay to delit bifo hi siz'zat?

no chance. da great eye of tibidi sees all.

[Aspiring Romantic]

In recent years, as you probably already know, there has been a huge surge of asian pianists in the concert scene.  But there is really know asian school of piano playing.  Most asians have wonderful piano technique, but the playing is not very moving.  Most of the musical expression I find is heavily influenced by their teachers.  I wonder if any of them will ever have a huge influence in the history of piano playing.
When you watch the great pianists videos, most are white European males.
What do you think?

What do I think?  If you heard of lang lang's or ESPECIALLY Yundi Li playing, then you'd probably regret every word out of that xenophobic mouth of yours.

[Nu-Steinway-Player]

To the person who gave us the nice list at the second post of this thread -- Martha Argerich is most certainly not Asian.  She is from Buenos Aries.  I am new to this board and was excited by the level of knowledge of the board's participants.  This little blunder was a bit disappointing, especially since no one corrected that person.  Martha Argerich is one of the greatest pianists, period.  Whoever posted that -- Shame on you for that misinformation!!!

[bernhard]

To the person who gave us the nice list at the second post of this thread -- Martha Argerich is most certainly not Asian.  She is from Buenos Aries.  I am new to this board and was excited by the level of knowledge of the board's participants.  This little blunder was a bit disappointing, especially since no one corrected that person.  Martha Argerich is one of the greatest pianists, period.  Whoever posted that -- Shame on you for that misinformation!!!

Er… have you read the whole thread? Try replies #6, #7, #9 and especially #11.

Lighten up!

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[theodopolis]

why? why does ethnicity matter may i ask?

This is always going to be a touchy subject and many will see it as an opportunity for racist attacks.

I prefer to see it in another light.

Why should we not see it as another school?
No-one takes offence when one refers to Askenazy as a Russian pianist, let alone Rubinstein and Horowitz and the differences between Polish pianism and the Russian School.
Does no-one believe Cziffra's Hungarian gypsy heritage had an influence on his interpretations of Liszt?
Does anyone implicate Claudio Arrau when his support for the new generation of pianists was limited to Argerich and Barenboim: A Chilean supporting two Argentinians.

It is a sad truth that during much of the last century, to the West, Asians were considered alien. Unfortunately, some residue of this mindset remains in Europe and the Americas.
Even 20 years ago, the extent of Asian pianism was limited to 'Chinese Chopsticks" and playing pentatonic intervals.

But times are changing. Slowly but steadily, things are turning around.

Thanks
Theodopolis

P.S - From one living in Australia: Isn't it a far greater travesty that this continent has only one internationally recognised pianist, and that is David Helfgott?

[brewtality]

we also have Lane, Tozer, Woodward, Lancaster, Howard 

[thracozaag]

we also have Lane, Tozer, Woodward, Lancaster, Howard 

  And Noel Mewton-Wood.

koji (STSD)

[SteinwayTony]

Er… have you read the whole thread? Try replies #6, #7, #9 and especially #11.

Lighten up!

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

The same goofball was ragging on Godowsky in another thread...

 

[brewtality]

  And Noel Mewton-Wood.

koji (STSD)

quite right, i was just talking about living pianists

[theodopolis]

I know you're right, but really the only one that is a household name, in my experience, is Roger Woodward.

Of course, we'll always have Percy Grainger.

[cziffra]

You're forgetting michael kieran harvey, too.

[thracozaag]

I know you're right, but really the only one that is a household name, in my experience, is Roger Woodward.

Of course, we'll always have Percy Grainger.

  Don't know if you want to "claiim" Percy so readily, heh.

koji (STSD)

[Nu-Steinway-Player]

I missed the one-liner mentioning Argerich was from South America.  Sorry my scanning of these threads at 2:00 in the morning was not as thorough as should have been.

[dmk]

 Don't know if you want to "claiim" Percy so readily, heh.

koji (STSD)

You read American texts and they claim Percy...you read Australian texts and they claim Percy....He is still a wanted man after all these years!!!

As for Australian pianist's who are household names there are very few indeed....I think Roger Woodward is a household name only because he was mentioned in Shine!!!!  (Theodopolis, I agree with you that the Helfgott thing is a bit of travesty especially when we have so many fine Australian pianists).

You're forgetting michael kieran harvey, too.

Could not agree with you more, Michael-Kiernan Harvery (IMO) should be a household name, I have seen him play both of the Carl Vine Piano Sonatas, absolutely mind-blowing!!!!  I still think about these performances, they were truly phenomenal.  Oh...and the recordings are also excellent.

Miriam Hyde was also a fantastic pianist, particularly playing her own works, I saw her playing her piano concerto, beautiful playing (she was 90 at the time I think).  She very sadly died on the 11th of Jan, nearly 2 weeks ago, a great loss 

[brewtality]

You read American texts and they claim Percy...you read Australian texts and they claim Percy....He is still a wanted man after all these years!!!

indeed but for other more morbid reasons

[cziffra]

Miriam Hyde...

I'll happily admit that possibly THE stupidest thing i have ever done was pass up the opportunity to meet her in person, at a social gathering DOWN THE ROAD FROM ME.  My reason?  Well, that morning, as i was getting ready to go down there, my friend called and asked me out to the movies.  I didn't want to say no, because then he'd feel bad.

IDIOT.  Idiot, idiot, idiot. 

[Cecin_Koot]

Apart from Uchida, Fou T'song, Licad, Lang Lang and Yundi Li, does anybody know of any other prominent asian concert pianists? 

um, just about every asian at my school