Staccato scales a case for thumb under?

[1piano4joe]

Hi all,

Should all staccato scales be played thumb over? Is there any reason to play them thumb under? I know that with legato scales a gap will be heard at slower speeds with thumb over but with staccato scales what difference does it make if any?

At speed, I use finger staccato, the "flick" technique and move my whole arm to the new position. I don't concern myself with a gap at all. Is there anything wrong with this? Is there a better way?

Thank you, Joe.

[1piano4joe]

Hi all,

Okay, I just checked this out. I am not entirely thumb over. There is some thumb crossing going on. It seems somewhat unnatural to try and remove it entirely. Maybe I should work on that?

I don't know, Joe.

[hardy_practice]

   Could someone please explain to me the difference between thumb over and thumb under in scales?  As far as I know there's only one fingering and one way.

edit: https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/20543/piano-scale-and-arpeggio-fingering-technique-thumb-under-vs-thumb-over-methods

So, thumb over is not doing scales properly and the thumb doesn't go over anything.   And this quote from the link above is just plain wrong 'Thumb Over (TO): the thumb is treated like the other 4 fingers, the thumb has only up and down movement (no lateral movement),'.  Of course the fingers cross each other!  How else would you play Bach or Chopin?

2nd edit: But here's Charles Rosen: 'it is better for me to keep my hand at a steady angle and displace the arm quickly to the right when shifting from the third finger to the thumb, and I have learned how to accomplish this legato.'  Never thought much of his playing anyhow.  DON'T STICK YOUR ELBOW OUT! (or Mozart will roll in his grave)