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Offline throwawaynotreally

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What edition is this?
on: January 04, 2015, 06:51:54 PM
https://partitions.metronimo.com/partition-gratuite/liszt/Liszt_piano_Rhapsodie_hongroise_14.pdf

Was trying to do a little research on Liszt's 14th Hungarian Rhapsody and came across this...it differs quite a lot to the one in my Dover book. Quite sure Cziffra recorded this version.

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Re: What edition is this?
Reply #1 on: January 08, 2015, 10:47:29 AM
anyone?

Offline j_menz

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Re: What edition is this?
Reply #2 on: January 08, 2015, 11:07:16 PM
It seems not. It looks like a performance arrangement by someone - a few extra flourishes thrown in - but by whom I don't know. It seems to have been printed, so you may be able to track it down - or you could email the site in question and ask.
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Re: What edition is this?
Reply #3 on: January 09, 2015, 01:04:10 AM
Those pedal markings for lifts look different.  That might help to figure out which publisher it was.

Looks like they used a book scanner for it, so some organization created that.  If you right click on it, you can see more info, like camera 1, camera 2, Adobe Acrobat 8.  That's probably an organization digitizing things in a library if they have a book scanner set up.  Which means the original is probably sitting in a library somewhere.  And if they were diligent enough, which you'd expect, that organization would have the exact publisher data.  They must have cropped that out for this copy.

The width of the pages varies a little too.  

And they've numbered these pages themselves, so maybe the original is a collection.

Still looking... Maybe the first PDF in the series has more info....  


Here's the page before that score...
https://partitions.metronimo.com/rhapsodies-hongroises,265.html

No luck.  #1 and #16 are the same.  No extra info at the beginning or end.


And no more luck searching.  If I were you, I'd contact that place and order every copy possible through the library.  Check other online sites too.  Maybe this place "borrowed" those PDFs from another source.  That's what I'm thinking now.  


Somewhere in here maybe?
https://imslp.org/wiki/Hungarian_Rhapsody_No.14,_S.244/14_(Liszt,_Franz)
Or not.  That gave me a page with several search results.

https://imslp.org/wiki/Hungarian_Rhapsody_No.14,_S.244/14_(Liszt,_Franz)
I just google and got that.  Then waded through the site.


Another possibility is that someone is selling that PDF.  Someone scanned it, whether it was an archival place or a reseller.  Original score is free.  They scan it -- purposely leave off the original publisher info -- and then sell that.  Or steal the PDF from someone else who already scanned it and sell that.


Could also add in...
Paper publishers could do the same thing.  Reprints.


I see arrangementson the imslp site.  There are full orchestra versions with a reduced piano version for the conductor.  I suppose it could be one of those too.... Probably not though since that French site has the whole set of them.
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