If that's so, then you should just be glad you were born male. You'll probably never have to worry about such issues I personally would have no problem with such a statement, although it's rather vague and probably says more about the speaker than me.Then again stupidity is as unappealing to me regardless of gender.
What about eliciting a reaction before posing a question that could produce a reaction?
Angry squirrely sir, that means you.
"Yup. I guess the fact that women make 77 every male dollar" - I have heard this argument so many times, the problem with it is that it pretty much universally fails to take any factor into account at all. It just looks at "a man makes this much, a woman makes this much, you averages together a bunch of cases and oh, women make less", that's all it is, an you always find different averages in a bunch of different 'study's'. There is so much more to it then "women get paid less because they are women". If you want to know, just ask me and I will happily dispense them to you."have been raped in 1 out of 5 cases" - In one out of 5 cases lol ok I don't know if that's true, in fact I'm not even sure what you mean by "cases" here. If you are saying that 1 out of 5 attempted rates a successful, that makes sense. But either way, this starts with Law and Order as well as bringing back some actual education in the Western world, people need to be taught more about empathy and why things are right and wrong. You are not going to do anything by saying "Women are f*cken equals", nobody cares, this has nothing to do with 'rights' of women. Only bad people rape other people, bad people don't care about gender equality. So not only does this actually have nothing to do with 'rights' of women, since I don't know if you noticed, but it's already illegal to rape people... Even if it was, feminism wouldn't do anything to help solve the problem, and isn't."are constantly discouraged from education" - Not in the developed world they aren't. In fact, women get better education in the developed world then men. So yeah, this is just false. You have no idea what you are talking about."are bought and sold for their virginity" - Ok? Yet again, not really much in the Western world, but yeah it does happen (most of the time, for money, it's called prostitution). Yet again, this is about Law and Order being enforced, has nothing to do with womens rights, it's only because most men find it really hard to get women without paying money (especially if you are involved in crime, no girl will want you)... Since there is way more heterosexual men looking for women, then there is gay men looking for men or women looking for men, this is the only reason that this happens. If it was the other way round, an men were the ones getting bought constantly for their virginity, I'd say the exact same thing I just did, except switch the genders around, I wouldn't go on about mens 'rights', has nothing to do with gender equality, law enforcement."and are forced into getting extremely painful inhumane surgeries just to prevent them from ever enjoying sex are just some "female issues that doesn't happen" (nice grammar btw!)" - What are you even talking about lol? I would respond to it, if I even understood it. It would be good to give at least one example of one surgery. Also thank you."Also, why would it matter at all that something doesn't happen in the western world? Do you think that people outside the western world are just non-people who don't deserve basic rights? What the *** is wrong with you?" - It actually does matter, because you are doing nothing to help the people in the undeveloped world. All you do is complain about things like how women are sexually objectified ect. Then you use sh*t that happens in the undeveloped world that doesn't even effect you as a back bone, which is not only unjust, it's utterly ridiculous. The Western world doesn't need Feminism, the undeveloped world however does, it needs the Feminism that was in the Western world in the early 1900s and late 1800s, it doesn't need the Feminist simpletons that populate the internet, complaining on blogs and sharing pictures on Facebook, that's what we don't need.
All these response are completely ridiculous.... I can't believe that nobody here can get it in there head, that I DO NOT WANT TO ASK ANY GIRL HOW MUCH SHE IS WEARING. I just asked IF <<<<<<<<<<<------------------------- You can tell if someone is wearing it, just by looking at facial features. Sorry that I have to use caps ect. But everyone here is being so inept in their reasoning skills, just say "no you can't tell" or "yes you can tell, this is how" or just do not comment on here.I look for quality over quantity, an this is just really large quantity, an the lowest quality possible. So a big load of sh*t basically.
All these response are completely ridiculous.... I can't believe that nobody here can get it in there head, that I DO NOT WANT TO ASK ANY GIRL HOW MUCH SHE IS WEARING. I just asked IF <<<<<<<<<<<------------------------- You can tell if someone is wearing it, just by looking at facial features. Sorry that I have to use caps ect. But everyone here is being so inept in their reasoning skills, just say "no you can't tell" or "yes you can tell, this is how" or just do not comment on here.
how are they ridiculous? by your own admission you asked a girl recently how much make up she was wearing. your statement that this could be interpreted as a compliment is what generated a lot of off topic discussion. you further invited more off topic discussion by calling chopincat a feminism and expressing your views on it. evidently you are allowed to veer off topic but nobody else is. either you have an extremely inflated view of yourself or you are a giant hypocrite...or both.
No I didn't see that gender equality post lol I actually just called her it because she sounded like one, I was only joking at first, I didn't think she actually was one.
Just a word of advice... Don't call people something jokingly if they wouldn't be okay with being called it for real. Most cases at least.
he says he was joking but i don't buy it. there was nothing joking about that post and he immediately followed this "joke" with "you just sound dumb". it sure seemed rather serious.
First of all, you sound like a feminist. That's all I can say about that, you just sound dumb, it's not even worth responding too. Don't take things out of context.a) *guy repeats what he said*b) Lmao, this is what this post is about you fool. No I don't know 'how to tell how much makeup someone is wearing', why don't you tell me, or don't comment on my postc) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Definitely sound like a feminist. Yes, you look better with the make up on compared to when you are not wearing it, that kind of the point of wearing make up. Girls wear make up to look better, an they do............ HAHA!!
and what part of this post is joking? it's about as serious as you can get. you can't fire off insults in an angry, condescending post and then claim that you were just kidding. that's a move that children do to avoid responsibility.
and why is calling someone a feminist an insult anyway?
I suggest that ask your question in a taliban forum
I actually find this really funny (not that this is at all a humorous issue) that this went from a thread of how to tell how much makeup someone is wearing (a non important question that doesn't really need to be asked in the first place) to Feminism (a social issue).
But, it's also just as stupid when you blame men for looking at you if you wear a shirt that shows off 3/4 of your breasts, and then say "I'm just expressing myself" or, "It's just how I dress, and you're sexualizing it."What would your reaction be if a man walked down the street with his pubic hair showing? Granted, this is a drastic example, but many feminists bring up just as extreme examples.I'm willing to bet that your reaction would be to turn away in disgust. Mine would be too. But if we are allowed to see those kinds of disgust reactions as normal, then wouldn't it be logical to look at the things we find the opposite of disgusting? Ergo; women wearing nothing but a thong and pasties in public (especially a thing near where I live). It's one thing to express yourself, it's another to go around so undressed that it looks like you've just retired from the local brothel.
Who raised the question of feminism in this thread? Not the feminists but those who used the word as a casual insult. But the puerile bigotry of this forum never ceases to amaze me.
I am not opposed to Feminists, only to what they say,
you can still be for equal rights for women and be against the feminist movement.
I am not opposed to Feminists, only to what they say, especially if it betrays males, and even more so if it is said directly to me, even targeted at me,
the problem with using a dictionary definition for feminism is that the modern feminist movement goes far beyond the simple support of gender equality. there is a reason why there are prominent women like julie bishop who do not want to be associated with the feminist movement. there are whole organizations of people, many women, who are against the feminist movement because they are known to be bullies that are more about dehumanizing men than they are about equality for women. if feminism simply meant gender equality you wouldn't have a large amount of women who are against it. what woman would be against gender equality?
it's demonized for a reason. feminists have said some crazy stuff. here is another example of a woman who early on embraced feminism but then also began to distance herself once she got a little older.https://thefederalist.com/2014/12/09/why-i-left-feminism-or-how-feminism-left-me/
People on this forum have said some crazy stuff too. We can do without being patronised thank you. Feminism isn't a phase you grow out of.
Er, yes. In my experience the views on this forum rival anything you've quoted.
As in "I quite like banjos as long as you don't play them"?
I understand what you're saying, but I really wish people would stop treating "the feminist movement" like one organization that has a set of beliefs that everyone within it follows. There are so many different kinds of feminists, a lot of which disagree with each other on many things. To call yourself a feminist, according to the dictionary, is just to call yourself someone who believes in equal rights for men and women. So yes, you can be for gender equality and disagree with some feminists, or some parts of "the feminist movement." But being in support of gender equality means you are a feminist by definition.So basically "I don't like it when I have my privilege checked"
"I'm a white male. Women think I'm oafish and rapey, blacks think I'm rascist, asians think I'm lazy, and my compatriots think I'm an idiot. I'm everyone's ***."
On the subject of what Bonesquirrel said, I do wish that people would realize that men also do deal with stereotyping on a day to day basis; not on the scale of women that do, but related to that: Men are often seen as pricks who just want to get into womens' pants. And granted- there are men like that. But they are actually not the majority. I'll leave you all with this quote, that I think sums up everything that men have to deal with:"I'm a white male. Women think I'm oafish and rapey, blacks think I'm rascist, asians think I'm lazy, and my compatriots think I'm an idiot. I'm everyone's ***."
I wonder why don't they start their own movement then instead of complaining about feminism?
Oh they have, it's called Men's Rights Activism, look it up if you want a good laugh.
So what should we call them? Maleists?
From what I can tell they just call themselves MRAs.
both genders.
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