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Together with Lang Lang and Yundi Li, Sa Chen (born 1979) is considered as one of today’s most important Chinese pianists and a veritable international sensation. Here we can hear her in the second movement of Chopin´s first Piano Concerto in E minor Op. 11 with the Gulbenkian Orchestra, Lisbon conducted by Lawrence Foster. Read more >>

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Jaydee
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« on: December 08, 2004, 09:34:01 AM »

Hey guyss!

Change of plans, I'm performing the Mozart Concert in C Major No.21 Mvt 1.  I was wondering if anyone has the music for any cadenza's written for this movement?

Thanks so much!

Jaydee
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piano sheet music of Piano Concerto 21 (Elvira Madigan)
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2004, 04:48:23 PM »

Hello,
When I was doing my undergrad. I performed this concerto with orchestra.  There is a cadenza by Lili Krause, however I decided to write my own cadenza (Krause inspired version).  You must try it - scales, broken and alternate chords and alberti bass to get you started.  It was actually a lot of fun, not to mention that my professors were very impressed by my attempt.

good luck
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2004, 01:54:31 AM »

Ohhh okay, hey would I be able to get a copy of your written cadenza, so I can see what you've done?  I doubt I'll write my own cadenza tho!! but theres always a chance i might, if i have spare time.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2004, 06:53:23 PM »

Sorry, but I have lost my manuscript for the cadenza.  I performed this about 10 years ago, I did not have access to a notator program.
Basically, I started with the alberti bass theme, played some scales, then chromatic scales to modulate, some alternate broken chords, arpeggios and that was about it.  The cadenza doesn't have to be long.  It's all up to you - a couple of measures should be fine.  I know you probably get a little intimidated from all the cd recordings, and you feel that a cadenza has to be virtuosic and complement the entire concerto.
Give it a try.  300 years ago, all the performers were making up their own cadenzas.  Actually they would improvise this.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2004, 08:34:01 PM »

best cadenza for this concert: radu lupu. other great ones: lipatti, fischer.

(and no, of course i don't have scores Smiley, i've only heard them played - sorry)
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2008, 04:31:11 AM »

Does anyone have a cadenza for this?  It one of the competition concerti this year at IU and a friend of mine is looking for one, but they are all checked out of the music library.  Let me know if you can help!

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Michael
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joe wallace
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2008, 04:00:03 PM »

This version has the cadenzas and the eingänge.

* Piano Concerto No.21 (With Cadenzas).pdf (12608.36 KB - downloaded 924 times.)
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2008, 04:10:32 PM »

The old Giles recording of the K467 had a really cool 1st mov't cadenza.  Does anyone recall who wrote that?
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2008, 06:42:05 PM »

The most often played for this concerto, is the Robert Casadesus, which I believe you can buy from Schirmer.  He wrote cadenza for first and third movements.  They are very Classical in style, though the piano technique leans towards the Beethoven end of things.  They fit wonderfully with the concerto.

Walter Ramsey


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