Chopin Etude 25/5 as only grade 8, is the an error?

[chopinlover01]

The Chopin etude in E minor, "Wrong Note" op 25 is rated as level 8 and not 8+. Is this intentional or a mistake? It seems to be on the level of say, 10/5 in terms of difficulty.

[mjames]

Keep in mind that ABRSM's grade 8 is considered to be an advanced level. Grade 8 =/= easy

[chopinlover01]

I know, but it's supposedly on the same relative level of difficulty then as the C sharp minor nocturne (posthumous), the B major nocturne, and less than the C major prelude of Chopin.
Doesn't make sense.
But then, the grading system of most anything doesn't make sense, so why try to actually classify them?

[mjames]

So? Are you implying that those nocturnes are just as difficult as the other grade 8 nocturnes? If that's stupid. Listen, being in the same grade doesn't mean that the level of difficulty is the same. Grade 8 just means that if you're at that level you're probably capable of handling the works in that specific category. the c minor Nocturne is also a grade 8 work but is far more challenging than the post. in c sharp minor.

If you were a grade 8 student capable of playing the c major prelude (which is by no means an easy piece, pretty difficult imo) then I think you'd be able to handle the etude. Even if you didn't have the technique for it, you know how to acquire it. Which is what a grade implies. It implies that a grade 8 student has the sufficient knowledge to achieve a decent understanding/performance of a grade 8 piece. Understand?

Which b major nocturne? There are two of them and the Op. 62 is quite a difficult work. Sure it's not as flashy as the etudes but it's challenging nonetheless. Anyways, crying about a piece's grade is a stupid thing to cry about. No offense. Stop thinking in terms of technical difficulty and start thinking in terms of musical content.

ABSRM people aren't idiots.

[kevonthegreatpianist]

I know, but it's supposedly on the same relative level of difficulty then as the C sharp minor nocturne (posthumous), the B major nocturne, and less than the C major prelude of Chopin.
Doesn't make sense.
But then, the grading system of most anything doesn't make sense, so why try to actually classify them?

pianostreet grading is crap.

i mean, when was the c# nocturne (earlier composed one) harder than the b major (earliest one)?

[chopinlover01]

Looking back, mjames is completely right here.
And you resurrecting this thread that's quite old isn't helping anything...