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Offline Cecin_Koot

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Help with starting band with disobedient members
on: December 09, 2004, 05:51:20 AM
I am 14 years old and I am starting a band with 5 members in which i am the keyboard player.  Two of them are male and three are female  me and my friend are the only determend members, the others don't understand that you need to put in to do well.  One of them started the guitar a few months ago, finds it enjoyable but does not have the mental capacity to practice with us all, she is more interrested in putting on make up for the vidio shoot.  What should I, as the bands princable musician get her to practice, become determend and learn? 

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Re: Help with starting band with disobedient members
Reply #1 on: December 09, 2004, 04:22:22 PM
Depending on how serious you intend to be with this band, and at 14 I'm not sure you need to be all that serious about it, but if there are members whom are determined, willing and able to work hard toward it, and other members are not, then the other members need to change or leave. It's not up to you to get somebody to practice and become determined. That must come from within her. Simple as that.

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Re: Help with starting band with disobedient members
Reply #2 on: December 09, 2004, 09:29:24 PM
I once saw a film where a man tied down a disobedient woman and did naughty things to her until she understood that learning the guitar is more important than putting on make up for a video shoot, maybe you should try it.

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Re: Help with starting band with disobedient members
Reply #3 on: December 29, 2004, 12:29:23 PM
Kick her out to see how badly she want to be part of the band.

Offline Bob

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Re: Help with starting band with disobedient members
Reply #4 on: December 29, 2004, 04:52:39 PM
You probably don't want to kick her out -- bad morale in the group.  Then you might have to find a replacement, if that's possible.

So, work from where she's at.  If she can't play the music, simplify it.  Find something she's successful at, then start adding a little more depending on what she can handle.

She's probably just in the group because her friends are in the group.  It just depends what you want, how serious the group is and what it wants, etc.
Favorite new teacher quote -- "You found the only possible wrong answer."

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Re: Help with starting band with disobedient members
Reply #5 on: December 30, 2004, 05:05:25 AM
I started gigging with different bands when I was about your age (different styles).  A few years latter I was lucky enough to be asked to join a well-established band and I had the chance to record and tour.  I can assure you that it is not at glamorous as what you see on TV.  This is a full time job that requires a lot of energy and dedication.  We were never huge but that never meant that we slacked off.  Your time is spent in the recording studio, doing radio and TV interviews and, of course, playing live. 

If you and your band mates are serious about making it in this business you will have to give it your all.  If just one of them is not giving it 110% your band is destined to fail even before a scout spots you or before you are offered a record contract. 

The music business is brutal.  If you want to get somewhere with it you have to start early and you have to dedicate yourself as if you were part of the (insert the name of your favorite well-known band here).  Also be ready to accept the fact that you may never make it big so you better excel in school also (always have a plan “B”). 

Don’t limit yourself to playing just with this one band.  You need to get immersed in the business.  Introduce yourself around and try to gig with as many different bands as you can so you can incorporate different playing styles.  You never know “IF” or “WHEN” opportunity will knock on your door and you have to be ready for anything when you open that door.

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Re: Help with starting band with disobedient members
Reply #6 on: December 30, 2004, 02:41:13 PM
Aaaaaaaaaah you bring back memories,
  I showed up for an audition where two "chick singers" had advertised to start a band.  When I asked them if they could harmonize, they asked me what's that.  They were annoyed that the band needed to establish a key, and thought that they should be able to just start singing and we would all join in and accompany them.  Don't you love it?  You will find lots of people who want the playful showy part of show business but do not have any experience with discipline and working hard at anything at all.  Hang in there.  Performing is great when it comes together.  You will learn from everyone you meet.   People will call you picky when you require responsible actions, pay them no mind.  By the way, I ended up playing piano bars by myself for a while after meeting the two dummies.  It's a crazy business, but don't miss out on the creative opportunity.
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