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Topic: Liszt ballade 1 vs Debussy Toccata from "Pour le piano"  (Read 1736 times)

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So as you probably know i would know which is harder of Liszt ballade 1 and Debussy Toccata! And i would also like to know which one you like the most. And yeah i know that difficulty isn't subjective but what do you think? Please don't hate!
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Re: Liszt ballade 1 vs Debussy Toccata from "Pour le piano"
Reply #1 on: March 30, 2015, 08:25:20 PM
I think you should play through both of them yourself, and decide for yourself. Difficult isn't just subjective, it's individual to each player.

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Reply #2 on: March 30, 2015, 08:25:56 PM
So as you probably know i would know which is harder of Liszt ballade 1 and Debussy Toccata! And i would also like to know which one you like the most. And yeah i know that difficulty isn't subjective but what do you think? Please don't hate!
"Perfection itself is imperfection." - Vladimir Horowitz

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Re: Liszt ballade 1 vs Debussy Toccata from "Pour le piano"
Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 08:47:04 PM
I think you should play through both of them yourself, and decide for yourself. Difficult isn't just subjective, it's individual to each player.
Thanks for your great tip but the only problem is that i don't really know myself after i tried them. I mean like some of them need to be harder to understand musically right?
"Perfection itself is imperfection." - Vladimir Horowitz

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Re: Liszt ballade 1 vs Debussy Toccata from "Pour le piano"
Reply #4 on: March 30, 2015, 08:58:27 PM
Play both! Even if you don't play them both for an exam or competition, you can always play one for joy and the other for examination. Go with whichever one you like better if you're intent on choosing just one.
And the difficulties should show themselves over time. I'm a bit of a hypocrite when it comes to this, but hopefully they show.
Have you asked your teacher about this?

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Re: Liszt ballade 1 vs Debussy Toccata from "Pour le piano"
Reply #5 on: March 31, 2015, 08:52:22 AM
Play both! Even if you don't play them both for an exam or competition, you can always play one for joy and the other for examination. Go with whichever one you like better if you're intent on choosing just one.
And the difficulties should show themselves over time. I'm a bit of a hypocrite when it comes to this, but hopefully they show.
Have you asked your teacher about this?
No i haven't yet, but i am playing Debussys Toccata with my teacher and i would also love to play Liszt's Ballade 1 cause it is a beatiful piece. When i asked like a year ago she told me it was too hard but should i play it now?
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Re: Liszt ballade 1 vs Debussy Toccata from "Pour le piano"
Reply #6 on: March 31, 2015, 10:14:27 PM
Ask her about it. She can assess your abilities and learning style, practice habits, etc. better than anyone on an online forum (hence why this question is redundant anyways- we can't really give you a proper answer except in the most extreme of cases).

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Re: Liszt ballade 1 vs Debussy Toccata from "Pour le piano"
Reply #7 on: April 01, 2015, 08:06:32 AM
Ask her about it. She can assess your abilities and learning style, practice habits, etc. better than anyone on an online forum (hence why this question is redundant anyways- we can't really give you a proper answer except in the most extreme of cases).
Thanks for your answer! I will ask my teacher about it!  ;)
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