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Waltzes similar to Chopin's???
on: April 08, 2015, 05:30:57 AM
I've already got many others, but they're mostly Viennese, with Strauss and Lanner at the forefront, of course, but I wonder if there are any other waltzes out there by less well-known composers that are quite close to the Chopin ones.

Any suggestions will be most welcome, especially since the ole waltz fever has gotten hold of me once more, for like the umpteenth time...  8)

Cheers!
M.W.

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Re: Waltzes similar to Chopin's???
Reply #1 on: April 08, 2015, 05:45:19 AM
Misha Levitsky....



Glinka...



Liadov....

"What the world needs is more geniuses with humility. There are so few of us left" -- Oscar Levant

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Re: Waltzes similar to Chopin's???
Reply #2 on: April 08, 2015, 07:18:26 AM






Scriabin.

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Re: Waltzes similar to Chopin's???
Reply #3 on: April 08, 2015, 08:41:22 AM
I've already got many others, but they're mostly Viennese, with Strauss and Lanner at the forefront, of course, but I wonder if there are any other waltzes out there by less well-known composers that are quite close to the Chopin ones.[...]

Hi M.W.!  :)

Yes, I remember some of Gottschalk, too, which on the first view seem to have similarities to the Chopin-Valses. But they contain other elements, too. Nevertheless, here are three of them:

"Radieuse", for example. On IMSLP there's the 2 hd version, and 4hd arrangements (I only have the 4 hd arrangement of Eugene List here at home, in his 2 volumes of 4hd pieces.)
Didn't find a YT-version of the 2hd version, but this one, of 4hds:

Radieuse 1p4h: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsyJWVjkFmg
Scores: https://imslp.org/wiki/Radieuse,_Op.72_%28Gottschalk,_Louis_Moreau%29
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Then, there's "Marguerite", too,

https://imslp.org/wiki/Marguerite,_Op.76_%28Gottschalk,_Louis_Moreau%29

"Marguerite" should be on YT, but you'll have to try if it works in your country. In Germany, some videos are blocked from time to time because of annoying "Gema"-issues (which is imho nonsense), so that from time to time, on the "other side", I can imagine, people will update the "Unblockers" they might have installed.-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHSYUGqd1SQ

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And "Sospiro",

https://imslp.org/wiki/Sospiro,_Op.24_%28Gottschalk,_Louis_Moreau%29

of which I didn't see an appropriate YT-vid by first glance. It's in the Schirmer-book, Vol 2024, too, which I have. G. wrote other valses, too, but the ones I had in mind were these three.

Very cordial greetings, 8_octaves! ;)
"Never be afraid to play before an artist.
The artist listens for that which is well done,
the person who knows nothing listens for the faults." (T. Carreño, quoting her 2nd teacher, Gottschalk.)

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Re: Waltzes similar to Chopin's???
Reply #4 on: April 08, 2015, 10:03:26 AM
+1 on Levitzky above I have posted many times about his pieces in the past.  Way awesome

Also consider Tellefsen

*been on a little bit of a kick on listening to his works past couple months. lovely stuff (always liked it, but more so this time around/this season of my life)

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Re: Waltzes similar to Chopin's???
Reply #5 on: April 08, 2015, 10:11:24 AM
Another long time fav of mine that in recent history seems to have fallen out of favor in performing despite the common opinion of the high quality if his music
Arensky

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Re: Waltzes similar to Chopin's???
Reply #6 on: April 08, 2015, 10:14:08 AM
Another near and dear to my heart ( an one fu all time fav or piano composers of all , like top 3 fav)
Kosenko

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Re: Waltzes similar to Chopin's???
Reply #7 on: April 08, 2015, 06:10:26 PM
DAMN YOU CHOPIN

POOR COMPOSERS. ANYONE WHO COMPOSES IN A STYLE SIMILAR TO CHOPIN'S IS NOW CONSIDERED "CHOPINESQUE" UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Not to mention stupid *** musicologists who dare call my dear Liadov "an unorginal copycat" when they probably couldn't even compose 2 bars of music even if they spent 20years trying to. NOT TO MENTION ANYONE WHO WRITES A BUNCH OF CHORDS IS CONSIDERED TO BE INFLUENCED BY RACHMANINOV. UGH, RACH WASNT THE FIRST RUSSIAN TO USE HUGE CHORDS.

Anyways, someone mentioned Liadov.



Another "Chopinesque" composer, henselt



Quite a lot of them if you ask me. If you want some more "Chopinesque" dudes check out early Syzmanoski, Moszkowski, and Brtkowiecz.

Oh and if you're into mazurkas, check out Scriabin's posthumous works. Pretty sure there are some waltzes and mazurkas there. His published ones aren't even remotely chopinesque.

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Re: Waltzes similar to Chopin's???
Reply #8 on: April 09, 2015, 02:17:18 AM
POOR COMPOSERS. ANYONE WHO COMPOSES IN A STYLE SIMILAR TO CHOPIN'S IS NOW CONSIDERED "CHOPINESQUE"

Quite right.. On the subject of waltzes, there are of course the Liszt Mephisto waltzes, but those aren't very much like Chopin's waltzes. Maybe they'll infatuate you like they have with me XD

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Re: Waltzes similar to Chopin's???
Reply #9 on: April 10, 2015, 02:46:00 AM
Cheers to everyone for your suggestions!  ;)
I'll make sure to look each and every one of them up (waltz fever is really kicking in now) and, hopefully, add the scores to my collection.

Greetings back, 8_octaves, you old mate! Oh yes, visitor, Kosenko is actually also quite dear to me, but I only recently discovered him, so I still don't know as many of his works as I'd love to. Oh well, nothing like working on it from right now, eh?  :)

Rest assured, mjames, I definitely don't consider, never have and never will, Lyadov a mere 'unoriginal copycat'!
I mean, what's next, saying that Lyapunov's 'Variations on a Russian theme' are boring? Or that 'Sucking' Bieber is a musician?? I think there's a time for joking, and another one when any joke of any kind is of very bad taste.
Cheers for the suggestions, too, and by the by, yes, I'm most certainly into mazurkas. If they're "Chopinesque" or not is unimportant, actually. This time I wanted to know about waltzes similar to those written by Frédéric, but it's not like I only play and listen to his works.  ;)

I forgot to mention I've already got many Lecuona waltzes, too; certainly worth checking out, as well!

Any further suggestions are of course more than welcome,
M.W.

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Re: Waltzes similar to Chopin's???
Reply #10 on: April 10, 2015, 04:38:04 AM
Balakirev:




BTW. I am not a big fan of the complete Balakirev recordings of Paley, unfortunately the piano sound is recorded very poorly. But as far as I know there are no other such sets.

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Re: Waltzes similar to Chopin's???
Reply #11 on: April 10, 2015, 09:29:22 AM
I bought this score recently. Lovely work:
 Papillons d'Amour, Op.59 (Schütt, Eduard)
 no2 valse a la bien aimee
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