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Offline nipunm

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Advice for Dance Repertoire for Piano
on: April 10, 2015, 11:59:05 AM
Hello everyone. I have to perform at a piano competition in 3 months' time. I need to perform a set of dances for one of the programmes. It is necessary to have one of the pieces in the set to be from before 1800. I would appreciate a lot if you could give me some advice regarding the repertoire. The total duration of the set must be 8 min. I have a fairly good technique so please don't restrict your suggestions on the basis of difficulty.
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Re: Advice for Dance Repertoire for Piano
Reply #1 on: April 10, 2015, 12:28:17 PM
Hi nipunm,

Manuel Saumell wrote many Contradanzas: He was very famous for them, as a master!

https://imslp.org/wiki/Contradanzas_para_Piano_%28Saumell_Robredo,_Manuel%29

They are short, but they (his contradanzas) aren't from before 1800.

But Rameau has composed dances, too, like Rigaudon, Sarabande, Menuett etc, and that's before 1800. Godowsky later arranged some Rameau-works, but these arrangements, which are more difficult than the originals of Rameau, are of course not before 1800.

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So, one could, to meet requirements, select some from the Contradanzas - maybe there are some of them which aren't too easy, too? - and one of the Rameau-Dances. The following links are only examples for the two composers.

Contradanzas (Selection): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MF0Tn57uuM
Rameau: Rigaudons (examples) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywFnXvKuuyk

Cordially, 8_octaves!
"Never be afraid to play before an artist.
The artist listens for that which is well done,
the person who knows nothing listens for the faults." (T. Carreño, quoting her 2nd teacher, Gottschalk.)

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Re: Advice for Dance Repertoire for Piano
Reply #2 on: April 10, 2015, 12:54:21 PM
Thank you so much. I'll most probably go with one of Rameau's dances for meeting the "before 1800" requirement!  :)

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Re: Advice for Dance Repertoire for Piano
Reply #3 on: April 10, 2015, 07:00:21 PM
Like 8av I am also a big Big BIg BIG admirer of Gottschalk
He wrote another Danza I like more but it may be too long t consider here ( about 6 min)
So how about this?


This would particularly pair well w on of the lovely many many danzas Rene Touzet composed

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Re: Advice for Dance Repertoire for Piano
Reply #4 on: April 10, 2015, 07:08:55 PM
Or have a look at the 12 valsas de esquina. By mignone. It's my favorite set of waltzes
No 12 is esp nice 8)

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Re: Advice for Dance Repertoire for Piano
Reply #5 on: April 10, 2015, 07:20:57 PM
OMG, what happened New Year 1800 that discounted so much beautyful  music?

However, before 1 January 1800 i suggest:



after 1800 and slightly more difficult

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Re: Advice for Dance Repertoire for Piano
Reply #6 on: April 11, 2015, 01:40:30 AM
Like 8av I am also a big Big BIg BIG admirer of Gottschalk
He wrote another Danza I like more but it may be too long t consider here ( about 6 min)
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Hi visitor,

how nice of you to link "Ynes" here!! ,  :) which is to be found in the "Little Book of LMG" ( I have ) and mentioned somewhen ago, too.

He himself wrote some contradanzas, of which some seem to be lost, but there's a Lilypond-version of the Contradanza "Ay! Lunarcitos" on this page:

https://www.gottschalk.fr/index.php/en/gottschalk-s-eng/partitions-s-eng

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The other, "longer" "Danza" you mentioned is a piano-version (I have 2 slightly differring versions of it ) of a part of the SUPER "one-scene-opera" "Escenas Campestres Cubanas", which can be heard here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKsWbckMr0A

The "Danza" you referred to, as one of the piano versions, is, for example, here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsTfFt2bdy8

But it's too long, as you said, as are other works of G., which are ( or could be ) subtitled "Danse cubaine" or sth like that, too, like "La Gallina", which is nice, but a little too long as well, I think.

Whereas "Ojos Criollos" ("Creole Eyes", Danse Cubaine ), may be a little shorter than "La Gallina". It's very nice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VktpHJjUxFQ

Very cordially, 8_octaves!  :)

"Never be afraid to play before an artist.
The artist listens for that which is well done,
the person who knows nothing listens for the faults." (T. Carreño, quoting her 2nd teacher, Gottschalk.)

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Re: Advice for Dance Repertoire for Piano
Reply #7 on: April 12, 2015, 12:42:34 PM
Hi visitor,

how nice of you to link "Ynes" here!! ,  :) which is to be found in the "Little Book of LMG" ( I have ) and mentioned somewhen ago, too.

He himself wrote some contradanzas, of which some seem to be lost, but there's a Lilypond-version of the Contradanza "Ay! Lunarcitos" on this page:

https://www.gottschalk.fr/index.php/en/gottschalk-s-eng/partitions-s-eng

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The other, "longer" "Danza" you mentioned is a piano-version (I have 2 slightly differring versions of it ) of a part of the SUPER "one-scene-opera" "Escenas Campestres Cubanas", which can be heard here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKsWbckMr0A

The "Danza" you referred to, as one of the piano versions, is, for example, here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsTfFt2bdy8

But it's too long, as you said, as are other works of G., which are ( or could be ) subtitled "Danse cubaine" or sth like that, too, like "La Gallina", which is nice, but a little too long as well, I think.

Whereas "Ojos Criollos" ("Creole Eyes", Danse Cubaine ), may be a little shorter than "La Gallina". It's very nice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VktpHJjUxFQ

Very cordially, 8_octaves!  :)


Thank you! I love al, your posts of Gottschalk and I must go back and study them more

I have unrelated question. I am familiar w his life including early childhood how he eventually ends up,I France after at first not succeeding in going the his. Trriumphant return as an American trained in France and his Rick star career ( indeed many do not know how,incredible his tour was, he was probably the most high volume traveling concert pianist and he played in many small remote venues that others ignored).

I follow him to the tropics then eventually to SouthAmerica
However I am trying to make Portugal fit. How does it fit? Did he spend much time there or was influenced perhaps travel there while he studies in France?

This work is mentioned in the book Portuguese Piano Music (2013) [by Nancy Lee Harper]
 The listing just tied him to the period in19th century but I try to figure out why include him in a Portuguese piano music book

Any relation? It mentions oops criollos and le Porte mourant
Thanks  :)

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Re: Advice for Dance Repertoire for Piano
Reply #8 on: April 12, 2015, 01:17:07 PM
Thank you! I love al, your posts of Gottschalk and I must go back and study them more

I have unrelated question. I am familiar w his life including early childhood how he eventually ends up,I France after at first not succeeding in going the his. Trriumphant return as an American trained in France and his Rick star career ( indeed many do not know how,incredible his tour was, he was probably the most high volume traveling concert pianist and he played in many small remote venues that others ignored).

I follow him to the tropics then eventually to SouthAmerica
However I am trying to make Portugal fit. How does it fit? Did he spend much time there or was influenced perhaps travel there while he studies in France?

This work is mentioned in the book Portuguese Piano Music (2013) [by Nancy Lee Harper]
 The listing just tied him to the period in19th century but I try to figure out why include him in a Portuguese piano music book

Any relation? It mentions oops criollos and le Porte mourant
Thanks  :)

Hi visitor!

I will make up now a separate Gottschalk-Thread in the "Miscellaneous"-area of this forum!
See you there!!! You (and all others) are VERY welcome!!!

Cordially, 8_octaves!

"Never be afraid to play before an artist.
The artist listens for that which is well done,
the person who knows nothing listens for the faults." (T. Carreño, quoting her 2nd teacher, Gottschalk.)
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