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Topic: Searching for calm, slow, meditative pieces with bigger intervals / chords  (Read 2839 times)

Offline 8_octaves

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Hi all,

mhh, I'm a little unsure  :-\ about whether there are such works, which I would find very interesting, because: I like playing bigger intervals, for example decimes ( not subsequently, but together ) and chords, which may span a decime, too, since I can spread my hands relatively well, and if "forced", can play chords with holding down an undecime (but that only at the very front of the keys).

Decime-tremolos would be ok, too, ( as appears, e.g., in a Beethoven-concerto ), but I'm very interested in calm, slow, meditative pieces, like e.g. Scriabin's prelude op.11,4 e-minor.

And the pieces' overall difficulty isn't too relevant.

But: The pieces I'm interested in, containing the "bigger" chords or / and intervals, shouldn't be atonal, nor bitonal, nor polytonal, and shouldn't be dissonant, and not disharmonic.

Ahhrgh...so maaany conditions...: But nevertheless I dare to ask you: Are there any pieces out there which would match the conditions?

Asks, with cordial greetings, 8_octaves!
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The artist listens for that which is well done,
the person who knows nothing listens for the faults." (T. Carreño, quoting her 2nd teacher, Gottschalk.)

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How about this old chap??

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are the big intervals mandatory?
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How about this old chap??

Thal

Hi Thal!

How nice it is!! , and the score is in the Biblioteca Digital Hispanica! Thank you very much for the link of Katsaris, too! ( In my brain there is the Banjo-arrangement of Katsaris, which I don't like, but this one, the Lacrymosa, arr. by Thalberg, is super! Good job, mon ami! ) ;)

Merci, again, and greetings from 8_oct!
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The artist listens for that which is well done,
the person who knows nothing listens for the faults." (T. Carreño, quoting her 2nd teacher, Gottschalk.)

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The score is on imslp old chap. It is part of of the Thalberg L'art du Chant Op.70.

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The score is on imslp old chap. It is part of of the Thalberg L'art du Chant Op.70.

Thal

Ah, OK! Thxx for additional info! ( Addition: And the IMSLP-version is better readable!  :) )

are the big intervals mandatory?

Hi Petter,

Yes, as far as my question is referred to.  :)

Cordially, 8_oct!
"Never be afraid to play before an artist.
The artist listens for that which is well done,
the person who knows nothing listens for the faults." (T. Carreño, quoting her 2nd teacher, Gottschalk.)

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Claude Debussy, La cathédrale engloutie..
4'33"

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Hi 8av!  ( and thank you so much for the gottshalk thread)
I love this piece and it is based on one of my favorite transcriptions

The base line is 10ths! Enjoy!!

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I don't have any music education. Scriabin's prelude op.11,4 e-minor meets your criteria of not polytonal, bitonal, atonal, no dissonance, not disharmonic?

Brahms Op 118 No 2, Rachmaninoff Op 23 No 4, Rachmaninoff Moment Music No 3, do those meet your criteria?

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Claude Debussy, La cathédrale engloutie..

Hi themeandvariation!

That sounds very nice, too, but I have never heard it - until now ( I just heard on YT the recording of Thiollier, and I of course at once downloaded the Preludes I-book which is on IMSLP! )

Thank you very much!!

Hi 8av!  ( and thank you so much for the gottshalk thread)
I love this piece and it is based on one of my favorite transcriptions

The base line is 10ths! Enjoy!!


 :) SHEEP may safely graze, the fluffy and furry ones!! ( I didn't know this version, but (of course) I knew Petri's arrangement...  ;)

The score I will have to find! ( Addition: Uff! On IMSLP Blithe Bells is "non PD US, and non PD EU". Such a "bad conscience" will be grasping at me, if... :-\ ;) )

VERY many greetings from: 8_oct!

( PS.: And in Moreau's thread, I think, from time to time there will be a place for news, infos, etc! Thank you, @visitor, for the encouragement! )

I don't have any music education. Scriabin's prelude op.11,4 e-minor meets your criteria of not polytonal, bitonal, atonal, no dissonance, not disharmonic?

Brahms Op 118 No 2, Rachmaninoff Op 23 No 4, Rachmaninoff Moment Music No 3, do those meet your criteria?

Hi Amy, Brahms doesn't meet them. Rachmaninow - maybe. Thanks, I'll check them!  :)
The Scriabin op.11,4 I played a while ago. It sounds good, and nice, it is tonal, not too long, not too many disharmonies, and a very nice ending-section, with in the left hand nice chords.  :)

Whereas...12-tone-music I don't like, for example. And I don't like, e.g., Bartok too much either, as examples.



Hi mikeowski,

I'll check the Gershwin, too! Thank you very much!

Addition: The Gershwin is super-nice  :) . Already downloaded the score!!

Cordially, 8_octaves!
"Never be afraid to play before an artist.
The artist listens for that which is well done,
the person who knows nothing listens for the faults." (T. Carreño, quoting her 2nd teacher, Gottschalk.)

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Claude Debussy, La cathédrale engloutie..

thats the one I had in mind as well
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@8av, i have a few sources for this, but allthumbs gave the score few years ago here

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=45272.0

see his reply for the pdf.

 8)

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@8av, i have a few sources for this, but allthumbs gave the score few years ago here

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=45272.0

see his reply for the pdf.

 8)

ARGGHHH...that's really hard!!  :D :D  Thank you so much!!

Many greetings from 8_oct!
"Never be afraid to play before an artist.
The artist listens for that which is well done,
the person who knows nothing listens for the faults." (T. Carreño, quoting her 2nd teacher, Gottschalk.)

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ARGGHHH...that's really hard!!  :D :D  Thank you so much!!

Many greetings from 8_oct!
it is beastly. i cannot do it. i gave up on it and may or may not pony up to it again in the future.

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@Petter.. "thats the one I had in mind as well"….
Twice before, you had commented with something I was about to say (as well): "The Rest is Noise"…(which i enjoyed) and the very theory books you recommended regarding jazz…
Cheers!


4'33"

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Hi mikeowski,

I'll check the Gershwin, too! Thank you very much!

Addition: The Gershwin is super-nice  :) . Already downloaded the score!!

Cordially, 8_octaves!

Thanks :) It's definitely among my favorite pieces (slow or fast), so that's very nice to read.
You seem to have good taste ;D
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