Learning while listening another performance

[stefo78]

Hello,

Just came across this video of Valentina Lisitsa learning Warsaw concerto.

My interrogation concerns the listening of a good performance while learning the piece, so that she doesn't listen to her mistakes.
Anyone working like this here ? What is the point doing that ? Is it really interesting, let's say, for amateurs ?

[j_menz]

Seems completely pointless to me. Listening to one beforehand can be useful, but during? Instead of what you're actually doing?  To what possible end?

[visitor]

Seems completely pointless to me. Listening to one beforehand can be useful, but during? Instead of what you're actually doing?  To what possible end?

It is lisitsa after all.
Lack of creativity pushes some to strange ends

[dogperson]

Hello,

Just came across this video of Valentina Lisitsa learning Warsaw concerto.

My interrogation concerns the listening of a good performance while learning the piece, so that she doesn't listen to her mistakes.
Anyone working like this here ? What is the point doing that ? Is it really interesting, let's say, for amateurs ?

I listened to the link, read her methodology... and have seen the headphones sitting on the piano..unworn.  Her behavior does not indicate she is listening at the same time as practicing but rather sight-reading and repeating measures with errors ...what am I missing where you have concluded she is doing both simultaneously?

[stefo78]

Look at the video between 5:00 and 20:00 - she wears headphones !

Look at her commentary : "The YouTube clip served as my guidance - I put on headphones and I couldn't hear my mistakes ( yes, I could feel them but I could't hear much ) - I heard good music instead. "

[bronnestam]

I found that video totally pointless, actually. So, she states that she is an extremely good sight-reader. I am sure she is, good for her. But we who are just average sight-readers, how can we work? Not like that. I can blow my brain out with "good music"; it will probably just disturb me when I try to find my way on the piano, work out correct fingering etcetera and play in a very slow tempo ... So I agree that listening to this music as a preparation while you just study the sheet music is a good thing (and that is how I work, actually), but then most of us have to start slowly and work through very tiny bits while we learn.

And why should I then watch this video? It is a very good first start, but still rather rough. It is not exactly pleasure for my ears. Why not then just listen to someone who has it all finished and polished? Why should I sit there and admire Ms. Lisitsa and her extraordinary learning skills, that are not like my own at all?

If you cannot listen to your own terrible mistakes, then I recommend that you work on a digital, turn the volume down and play with silent keys. I do that sometimes. Yes, I CAN feel my mistakes. It is quite an interesting experience. But I don't want to listen to someone else while I'm doing that! After all, you need to evaluate your mistakes in order not to repeat them ...