When did women stop curtseying?

[cuberdrift]

Whenever we watch classical movies and there's a female performer they always do the 'curtsey', the female equivalent of a bow.

I wonder, when did this tradition cease? I notice that I have almost never seen a female performer do this (they instead do the usual 'bow').

Sorry, but I'm a highly sexist dude. It's not that I want women to be 'below' the men, I just want them to be...er...different. Largely because I find them more attractive that way. I can't see how men can be attracted to women if they can't even tell the difference between the two.

Thoughts?

[stevensk]

-So women arent "different" if they dont "do the curtsey"

-Are you from Saudi-Arabia? 

[stevensk]

-oops double post sorry

[kawai_cs]

That is a very interesting point. When I think about a woman curtseying -I see a long dress, long hair done in a bun on top of the head - something looking like an XIX or early XX century outfit
I guess it's for its inferior connotations that women stopped doing it.
Yet, I think it looks very graceful and I also like the idea of women being a little different in manner than men. However this approach does not seem very "contemporary". I have a feeling that today the more a woman resembles a man (strong jawline, masculine face, athletic body, etc.) the more attractive she is considered.

[j_menz]

Since women (performers, at least) have ceased to do so, and you wish to maintain a difference, perhaps it's time for you to start.

You should be advised before you try, though, that it's not quite as easy as it looks.

[emill]

Since women (performers, at least) have ceased to do so, and you wish to maintain a difference, perhaps it's time for you to start.

You should be advised before you try, though, that it's not quite as easy as it looks.

  !!!

I wonder what Thal would say?

[stevensk]

!!!

I wonder what Thal would say?

-The same of course 

-I wonder what cuberdrift would say after all this   

[thalbergmad]

I wonder, when did this tradition cease?

A few years back when some bloody Australian refused to bow to our Queen.

Thal

[compline]

I suppose one could equally ask, why have men stopped doffing their hat when greeting a lady and opening doors, etc.    Do men even wear hats these days?  

I remember when  I was at school , the headmaster would doff his hat when greeting the students in assembly with a -  good morning boys and girls!   That seems a different era now, sadly.









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[stevensk]

Isnt it remarkably that men doesnt wear swords these days? What have happened to our society? Our Culture is Decaying.

[thalbergmad]

I would love to wear my sword, but the local constabulary would not like it.

Thal

[senanserat]

Isnt it remarkably that men doesnt wear swords these days? What have happened to our society? Our Culture is Decaying.

Joke's on you I carry the Master Sword to every lair and quest I embark upon.

[chopinlover01]

I would love to wear my sword, but the local constabulary would not like it.

Thal

Where I'm at, if it's single edged and you're over 18, it's (albeit very technically) legal to carry anything on you openly (which is defined by a belt clip or holster being visible).

[Bob]

Apparently they still do for British royals and in ballet.

[outin]

Since women (performers, at least) have ceased to do so, and you wish to maintain a difference, perhaps it's time for you to start.

You should be advised before you try, though, that it's not quite as easy as it looks.

Yes, one needs strong legs...

[j_menz]

Yes, one needs strong legs...

And, while in your example it's mercifully unclear, a defiance of tradition would seem desirable.

[visitor]

Technical issues.  Stand by.

[cuberdrift]

Men should be men and women should be women. 

[rachmaninoff_forever]

A few years back when some bloody Australian refused to bow to our Queen.

Thal

Why should someone have to bow to your queen?

[j_menz]

Why should someone have to bow to your queen?

It is a matter of royal protocol and convention.

Curtsying is not, however, required when meeting our Queen, and it is no doubt ours that "some bloody Australian" met. Some poms have difficulty distinguishing between the two.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

It is a matter of royal protocol and convention.

But the thing is he's Australian so he's not used to bowing down to people.

Well I assume.  I'm not Australian so I wouldn't know.

But anyways I wouldn't bow down for her or anyone else unless they're doing something to further convenience me like coming out to see me play or giving me money or something.  She's a normal person like everyone else.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Hey cubedrift what do you think of girls not shaving their armpit hair

[cuberdrift]

-So women arent "different" if they dont "do the curtsey"

-Are you from Saudi-Arabia?  

Hehe I don't know why, but somehow your question made me feel a bit flattered.   I am not, although I begin to wonder what of the Arabs seem so exotic for you.

But anyways I wouldn't bow down for her or anyone else unless they're doing something to further convenience me like coming out to see me play or giving me money or something.  She's a normal person like everyone else.

Doesn't the queen do anything to "further convenience you"? I don't know how that country's system works, but come on. Isn't the queen in charge of the country in any way?

Hey cubedrift what do you think of girls not shaving their armpit hair

eww

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Doesn't the queen do anything to "further convenience you"? I don't know how that country's system works, but come on. Isn't the queen in charge of the country in any way?

I live in America.

And you don't see anyone bowing down to Obama or anything.

[chopinlover01]

No, you see them instead asking him to resign..
God, our country is stupid (not just for that, a multitude of other reasons).

[timothy42b]

Curtseying is an example of evaluating someone by their adherence to a cultural standard.  We do that a lot in the workplace, especially if there isn't an obvious way to measure performance. 

I suspect women today prefer to be evaluated on how well they play piano, and some of the old fashioned charm school stuff has become less important.