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Offline kobis

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Rachmaninoff's Etude - Tableaux op. 39 nr. 5
on: June 17, 2015, 11:52:59 PM
Hello
It's summer now and I have to decide what I'd like to play next semester.
One piece I have chosen but I have a problem with the second.
I like this Etude tableaux but I think it will be too difficult for me. Is it really hard?
In past I have already played some Rachmaninoff's music like : prelude op. 3 nr.2 and prelude op. 23nr. 5 ( I couldn't say that this one was easy for me).
Please write your opinion about it . I have about 4 months. Is it possible if I'll play 2-3 times a week for 30 minutes - 1 hour ?
P.S. Sorry for my English.

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Re: Rachmaninoff's Etude - Tableaux op. 39 nr. 5
Reply #1 on: June 18, 2015, 01:13:04 AM
You're referring to the D minor etude, I assume? The ordering of Op. 39 has a lot of ambiguity, for reasons I'm sure I was told at one point but can't be bothered to remember.
If so, I'd personally recommend choosing another piece. That etude is arguably one of the hardest of the set, and from your current rep (C# minor prelude and g minor prelude) it'd be quite a step up. Plus, with 4 months you might get a little rushed, and with a monstrous piece like that, that's almost a guarenteed disaster.
EDIT: Just realized I was mistaken, it's the E flat minor etude. Still a big piece, but it's more approachable than the D minor IMO.
Still, same principle applies. If it's really far out of your reach (and it seems quite a distant from the two aforementioned preludes) and you only have 4 months, I'd pick another piece.

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Re: Rachmaninoff's Etude - Tableaux op. 39 nr. 5
Reply #2 on: June 18, 2015, 01:29:04 PM
You're referring to the D minor etude, I assume? The ordering of Op. 39 has a lot of ambiguity, for reasons I'm sure I was told at one point but can't be bothered to remember.
If so, I'd personally recommend choosing another piece. That etude is arguably one of the hardest of the set, and from your current rep (C# minor prelude and g minor prelude) it'd be quite a step up. Plus, with 4 months you might get a little rushed, and with a monstrous piece like that, that's almost a guarenteed disaster.
EDIT: Just realized I was mistaken, it's the E flat minor etude. Still a big piece, but it's more approachable than the D minor IMO.
Still, same principle applies. If it's really far out of your reach (and it seems quite a distant from the two aforementioned preludes) and you only have 4 months, I'd pick another piece.
Thank you for your answer! I like Rachmaninoff's music because you can hear powerful and also romantic music. Maybe you could suggest me some pieces that have powerful and romantic sound?

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Re: Rachmaninoff's Etude - Tableaux op. 39 nr. 5
Reply #3 on: June 18, 2015, 09:15:06 PM
Thank you for your answer! I like Rachmaninoff's music because you can hear powerful and also romantic music. Maybe you could suggest me some pieces that have powerful and romantic sound?
Other Rachmaninoff, Brahms, Scriabin...
For Brahms, I like the solo hungarian dances and the intermezzi.
You could also do another Rachmaninoff prelude; perhaps the B minor? Scriabin has some nice ones too.

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Re: Rachmaninoff's Etude - Tableaux op. 39 nr. 5
Reply #4 on: June 19, 2015, 12:58:13 PM
What about this one?




Mvh,
Michael

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Re: Rachmaninoff's Etude - Tableaux op. 39 nr. 5
Reply #5 on: June 19, 2015, 01:39:57 PM
Other Rachmaninoff, Brahms, Scriabin...
For Brahms, I like the solo hungarian dances and the intermezzi.
You could also do another Rachmaninoff prelude; perhaps the B minor? Scriabin has some nice ones too.

Some? All of Scriabin's preludes are gorgeous, and that's not up for debate. It's a fact! Scriabin is not like Rachmaninoff, he doesn't have the same "big bells huge sound kind of music"...

Here's a taste of Scriabin's amazing collection of preludes.






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Re: Rachmaninoff's Etude - Tableaux op. 39 nr. 5
Reply #6 on: June 19, 2015, 01:51:10 PM
in vein of the above, i really need to give a shout out to Egon Kornauth!!









and on and on I can go. It's like we get Brahms, Richard Strauss, Scriabin, a little something extra cannot put my finger on, all wrapped up on a yummy late romantic/post-neo romantic package.

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Re: Rachmaninoff's Etude - Tableaux op. 39 nr. 5
Reply #7 on: June 19, 2015, 05:50:00 PM
Some? All of Scriabin's preludes are gorgeous, and that's not up for debate. It's a fact! Scriabin is not like Rachmaninoff, he doesn't have the same "big bells huge sound kind of music"...
In the same way that people cannot insult Chopin without getting the fanboys riled up, apparently we cannot forget to include all of Scriabins preludes when mentioning them as possible repertoire..  ::)

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Re: Rachmaninoff's Etude - Tableaux op. 39 nr. 5
Reply #8 on: June 20, 2015, 12:09:59 AM
In the same way that people cannot insult Chopin without getting the fanboys riled up, apparently we cannot forget to include all of Scriabins preludes when mentioning them as possible repertoire..  ::)

The only one who's serious here is you. You said "Scriabin has some nice ones," I only meant to stress that all of it is good. Seriously, why are you so angsty?

There's nothing wrong with disapproving of insults against Chopin's music. Learn to write a bar or two before you decide to insult the accomplishments of others. Don't reply to me if all you're capable of is condescension.

*insert smug emoticon here*

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Re: Rachmaninoff's Etude - Tableaux op. 39 nr. 5
Reply #9 on: June 20, 2015, 12:16:09 AM
I was joking with that too. Did you not see my sarcasm?  :)
I have written a bar or two, and I said nothing against Chopin or Scriabin. You replied to my comment after I said "Scriabin has some nice ones (preludes)." with "they're all gorgeous and that's not up for debate", which to me looked a lot more serious that my reply (though I'm biased seeing as I'm the one who wrote it..).
Apologies for starting something, probably haven't been processing s**t right.
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