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Offline ashtonm

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Transcription Help: Is this tenuto?
on: July 09, 2015, 02:37:09 AM
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1:31-1:33

RH: C,E,B,E,A

Is the "B" that is being played tenuto? It has this swing to it, I'm not sure how to identify this for transcription and learning purposes.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 2:01-2:05 ritardando?

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Re: Transcription Help: Is this tenuto?
Reply #1 on: July 10, 2015, 12:38:31 AM
I think the pianist is just using rubato in the passage from 1:31 to 1:33, which is why he stresses the B. Tenuto only means to hold a note for its full rhythmic value, but it seems that the pianist actually does a slight ritenuto as well.

2:01 to 2:05 is a ritardando/ritenuto. 

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Re: Transcription Help: Is this tenuto?
Reply #2 on: July 10, 2015, 02:58:51 PM
I think the pianist is just using rubato in the passage from 1:31 to 1:33, which is why he stresses the B. Tenuto only means to hold a note for its full rhythmic value, but it seems that the pianist actually does a slight ritenuto as well.

2:01 to 2:05 is a ritardando/ritenuto. 
Care to educate me? I'd like to know how you were able to deduce that it was rubato, and ritenuto is a new term for me. I looked it up and it means "held back." It sounds like he held back from playing "E" after playing "B", is that how you were able to deduce that it was ritenuto?

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Re: Transcription Help: Is this tenuto?
Reply #3 on: July 16, 2015, 12:49:12 AM
Sorry for the late reply.

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Care to educate me? I'd like to know how you were able to deduce that it was rubato

By "rubato," I just meant that at that part, the pianist was manipulating time in some way. Since you're doing a transcription of this piece, I don't think you need to really mark "rubato" in the score, since it's just something that pianists add themselves as they interpret a piece.

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Ritenuto is a new term for me. I looked it up and it means "held back." It sounds like he held back from playing "E" after playing "B", is that how you were able to deduce that it was ritenuto?

Yes, that's how I deduced it was ritenuto. You could also just use "ritardando" to mark that in the score, since it means practically the same thing. Again, some people might just consider the pianist to be using rubato right there, but if you wanted to be really accurate with your transcription, you could write in a ritenuto or ritardando.
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