what do you guys think about the CASIO PX 860

[honorconnor11]

I have been researching and gathering information on the Casio PX860

I believe this piano can be a awesome digital piano. It has dynamic features that is required by most general population of pianists from begginer to professionals.

I really like the ivory keys as well.

I found a great review page on this item as well: https://digitalpianobestreview.com/2015/03/22/review-new-digital-piano-casio-privia-px860-new-casio-privia-px860-price-new-casio-privia-px860-compare-sound-function-high-recommend-best-seller-digital-piano/

Compared to Yamaha, what do you guys think this about this digital piano?

[hfmadopter]

Not my cup of tea but that's me. I've never played a Casio that I can say wow I like that and usually because of the action. Some Rolands yes, Kawai yes, not even really Yamaha, though the upper end isn't too bad. And 0 Casios, 0 Williams. I played one Korg I liked but it was a Work Station and Liked it for it's library of sounds.

To me the 860 sounds are thin, that's not to say something can't be done like internal tweaking, external sound system ( it has the jacks for it), VST pianos. But it's a Casio so with my narrow little mind I just move on once more. No offense intended in your selection process incidentally.

[dcstudio]

I think Casio sucks...

but that's just me...

 

[x984x]

The review you posted looked pretty cut and paste and was decidely uncritical. In other words it was an advertisement not a review. As a 'review' it was worthless, and it was not even a particularly well written or compelling advertisement.

I'd see about finding some better actual reviews.

Casio as a brand isn't my first choice. The Privia is competing with entry level stuff from Yamaha, Roland, etc; so that's what I'd be comparing it too. The recent Privia's have been getting relatively good reviews in that market segment; but all else being equal I'd pick a Roland or a Yamaha over a Casio unless the Casio had something compelling going for it.

For a beginner looking to keep within a budget, it might be perfectly satisfactory.

I doubt you are going to find anyone here rave about a Casio. As a brand they are better known for their lineups of cheap toy keyboards (ie junk) etc; and that image is hard for them to shake.

[hfmadopter]

Another advertisement but one which clearly indicates the thin sound in my view ( also dispels the folks theory we see on here complaining their fat fingers inhibit their ability to play piano, Adam gets around pretty well even if his style of music is not mine).    https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=Kraft+Music+Privia+860&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001

Again an advertisement but just listen, more money spent matters sometimes:     https://www.kawaius.com/main_links/digital/CA67_97/ca67-97_demovid.html

Up one more level, spend more money lol !  https://www.kawaius.com/main_links/digital/CS_KDP/cs4-7-10_Overview-Video.html

[x984x]

Yeah, no comparison. But...

It appears you are comparing it to a unit that costs more than triple the price. The Privia can be had for under $1000. The Kawai CA67 looks to be $3000+. And I assume the CA97 is even more.

That's a huge difference for most people. By all means if the OP can afford it, definitely move up market and the instruments are nicer... but its like comparing a Kia econobox to a Mercedes touring car. If comfort, fit, and finish were the only considerations nobody would ever buy an econobox. After all, the luxury sedans are nicer in every way.

But if the question is what the best instrument one can get for under $1000 the Privia is probably a contender. (I'd suggest the Roland F130R myself at the entry level, but even that is going to be a few hundred more than the Privia.)

[hfmadopter]

Yeah, no comparison. But...

It appears you are comparing it to a unit that costs more than triple the price. The Privia can be had for under $1000. The Kawai CA67 looks to be $3000+. And I assume the CA97 is even more.

That's a huge difference for most people. By all means if the OP can afford it, definitely move up market and the instruments are nicer... but its like comparing a Kia econobox to a Mercedes touring car. If comfort, fit, and finish were the only considerations nobody would ever buy an econobox. After all, the luxury sedans are nicer in every way.

But if the question is what the best instrument one can get for under $1000 the Privia is probably a contender. (I'd suggest the Roland F130R myself at the entry level, but even that is going to be a few hundred more than the Privia.)

Very true, with deliberate reason.. I wanted to show that as you go up in price and quality the sound and action go up with it. Roland has some great  Pianos too. And Yamaha, I think you actually pay even more for one that has the action and sound pianists really want, up in the V piano and Avant and finally Hybrid category.

Still others who are not as discerning as more advanced players might be happy with the Privia as it comes from the factory. As long as it's reliable they could get started learning. Rank beginners have no need to get too extreme, if the piano plays smoothly and makes a sound it may be sufficient to start out. By the second year though, and certainly the third, they will begin to notice something is missing. By then they may be ready to upgrade anyway.

I could describe how I got to good sound and action but not everyone would be willing to do what I have done. I will say that in my search for a digital piano I found nothing at $1000 or less that played as I was looking for. FWIW.  It's sufficient for me to leave it at that.

[dcstudio]

casios wear out quick...really quick...especially if you have any kind of regular playing routine that is above the student level.  I have seen the touch sensitivity start to go in as little as 6 months...  and then they sound horrible.  The action gets saggy too--and fuzzy...the  4 PRIVIAs I experienced in a studio I taught in--all went out the same way.  Kinda soured me on casio.


they are better than they used to be--but they aren't worth investing in for any kind of serious use.

I prefer Roland--but I would take a Yamaha over a casio any day...  much better design.

[hfmadopter]

Very true, with deliberate reason.. I wanted to show that as you go up in price and quality the sound and action go up with it. Roland has some great pianos too. And Yamaha, I think you actually pay even more for a Yamaha that has the action and sound pianists really want, up in the V piano and Avant and finally Hybrid category.

Still others who are not as discerning as more advanced players might be happy with the Privia as it comes from the factory. As long as it's reliable they could get started learning. Rank beginners have no need to get too extreme, if the piano plays smoothly and makes a sound it may be sufficient to start out. By the second year though, and certainly the third, they will begin to notice something is missing. By then they may be ready to upgrade anyway.

I could describe how I got to good sound and action but not everyone would be willing to do what I have done. I will say that in my search for a digital piano I found nothing at $1000 or less that played as I was looking for. FWIW.  It's sufficient for me to leave it at that.