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Offline robatsch

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Question on Schumann's Fantasy- 1st Movement
on: July 30, 2015, 11:49:07 PM
I'm learning the 1st Movement of Schumann's Fantasy in C major.  I've made it up to the start of the im legendenton.  However, I'm not particularly fond of the im legendention middle section of the piece.  Do you think the piece would still be coherent if I skip this section and move right to the erstes tempo? 

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Re: Question on Schumann's Fantasy- 1st Movement
Reply #1 on: July 31, 2015, 12:04:50 AM
1. I'm learning the 1st Movement of Schumann's Fantasy in C major... 
1.im so sorry!  just know sonetimes awful things happen and it is not your fault.

ps yes the more you skip the better, think big skip giant chunks of that things, if not for you do it for the ones that have to sit through and listen to it

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Re: Question on Schumann's Fantasy- 1st Movement
Reply #2 on: July 31, 2015, 11:34:56 PM
I would skip the whole damned thing and learn something of value.

I can barely listen to the jumbled mess of the first 5 minutes without throwing up. His writing for the left hand is 3rd rate unimaginative trash and is simply not worth the effort.

Now go play some Schubert.

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Re: Question on Schumann's Fantasy- 1st Movement
Reply #3 on: July 31, 2015, 11:44:24 PM
I would skip the whole damned thing and learn something else.


I learned from another forum discussion that you strongly dislike the music of Schumann.  What pieces or composers would you recommend?

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Re: Question on Schumann's Fantasy- 1st Movement
Reply #4 on: August 01, 2015, 02:47:56 AM
I would skip the whole damned thing and learn something of value.

I can barely listen to the jumbled mess of the first 5 minutes without throwing up. His writing for the left hand is 3rd rate unimaginative trash and is simply not worth the effort.

Now go play some Schubert.

Thal


Now come on Thal. The counter-point as well as the transference and passing of thematic material between hands in his first two sonatas surely compensates for some lackluster writing in this  admittedly messy fantasie.

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Re: Question on Schumann's Fantasy- 1st Movement
Reply #5 on: August 01, 2015, 05:57:25 AM
I do not recall his sonatas, which generally means they made no impression on me at all.

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Re: Question on Schumann's Fantasy- 1st Movement
Reply #6 on: August 02, 2015, 11:53:16 AM
I do not recall his sonatas, which generally means they made no impression on me at all.

Thal
Do you just dislike Schumann? How do you feel he stacked up to his contemporaries Chopin, Liszt, or Mendelssohn?

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Re: Question on Schumann's Fantasy- 1st Movement
Reply #7 on: August 02, 2015, 03:11:58 PM
Yes, i do dislike him, but not without justification. I just find many of his works to be bereft of interest and horridly restrained.

He is nothing when compared to Liszt, vastly inferior to Chopin and even more boring than Mendelssohn.

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Re: Question on Schumann's Fantasy- 1st Movement
Reply #8 on: August 03, 2015, 01:33:01 AM
Yes, i do dislike him, but not without justification. I just find many of his works to be bereft of interest and horridly restrained.

He is nothing when compared to Liszt, vastly inferior to Chopin and even more boring than Mendelssohn.

Thal

I do agree that some of his works are very bland. His larger works consisting of short pieces lose my interest quickly i.e sections of Carnaval, Bunte Blatter, Davidsbundlertanze, and others.
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